Why Representation Doesn’t Matter And Saying It Does Is Harmful

Now before I start, one thing I’d like to make clear in this article is that I obviously am not saying that we shouldn’t bother making any new films with female heroes or non white heroes.

Make as many female or black heroes as you want. I don’t care. If they are great I’ll love them.

This article will instead be looking at people who artificially try and bring about representation and force it into everything more for the sake of their own ego than anything else. I will also be looking at how representation though once important in the ongoing struggle for equality, is really no longer an issue at all. I feel we do live in a genuine meritocracy.

I realise that is a controversial stance to take, but I hope you take the time time to at least hear me out here and if you disagree? Well then that’s what the comments section is for. Never let it be said that this is an echo chamber for only my opinions

I used to think representation was still important I freely admit. I often talked about how we needed more female heroes and minority heroes in the entertainment industry both here and on other sites. In recent months however I have come to change my position and who knows by the end of this article you may too.

The great irony is that I’ve never actually seen Wil Wheaton talk about or try and bring any attention to any female led series such as Xena, Buffy, Charmed, Once Upon A Time, Resident Evil, Alien, Dark Angel, Dollhouse, Ghost Whisperer or The Bionic Woman. Then again in my experience the people who claim to care about diversity are often the people who actually have the least interest in female led series or films.

Why It Doesn’t Matter And When It Did Matter

That was then. This is now. A phrase the SJW’s seemingly don’t understand.

Representation is one of these third wave feminist complaints that I feel was once legitimate but no longer matters.

Back in the 50’s and the 60’s it was actually important as back then our society was genuinely racist, sexist and homophobic. It was perfectly legal to pay women less for the same work as a man in America until 1963 and in the UK until 1970.

Black people also throughout the 50’s and 60’s were treated as second class citizens in both the UK and the US.

They were segregated from white people in the US, deprived of many basic human rights and there was also widespread support for racist groups like the KKK.

Whilst things were better in the UK, racist attitudes still prevailed. There were signs saying “No Blacks Allowed” plastered everywhere and members of the Tory party such as Peter Griffiths tried to use racist feelings towards black people in order to get elected as late as 1964.

Now remember this was not some fringe group of nutters. This was one of the two main political parties in the UK relying on widespread racist feeling to win an election and promising to impose racist policies once it got in.

Finally homosexuality was illegal in the United Kingdom until 1967. Right up until it was legalised many of our most beloved entertainers who were secretly gay such as Frankie Howerd were terrified of being found out.

Thus any form of entertainment that featured women and minorities in strong roles back then was important for a number of reasons.

To start with television series like Star Trek would often be among the few places a black actor or actress could actually get a role that wasn’t just as a maid or a bit part.

Also positive portrayals of women and minorities helped to counteract the genuine racist and sexist propaganda that was everywhere in our society.

A black child who saw a sign saying, “No Blacks Allowed” might feel better about themselves when they read a Dan Dare comic where the main white characters boss was a black man.

Of course that’s not to say these forms of entertainment won the civil rights movement or anything, but they did have their place in the struggle for equality.

Dan Dare, Star Trek the Original Series and Classic Doctor Who, all of which gave strong roles to black characters and female characters were decades ahead of their time. They did break new ground in a lot of ways. Martin Luther King himself said that he felt Star Trek was important and encouraged Nichelle Nicholas not to quit the series.

Times change however. Homosexuality was legalised in 1967, the civil rights movement won, and second wave feminism managed to achieve many notable victories including equal pay for women.

Many third wave feminists still complain about the gender wage gap, but it has been debunked (including by many feminists such as Christina Hoff Sommers and Ayaan Hirsi Ali) time and time again.

Similarly there is no rape culture in western society either. Our justice system is far from perfect, and sometimes there are horrendous miscarriages of justice (for all crimes, against both genders, not just rape.) Still to say that we live in a culture where rape, and abuse of women is encouraged is ridiculous.

Most men in western societies are naturally predisposed towards wanting to help and protect women, and rape is rightfully viewed as one of the worst crimes anyone can commit, and the actual statistics and studies do not back up any claims of society normalising widespread sexual abuse of women.

Statistics Don’t Back Up Claims of Rape Culture

I’m not saying that our modern society is completely perfect, but the point is that most of the main battles for equality in the west were thankfully won in the later half of the 20th century. Quite frankly its an insult to anyone who did live in genuinely prejudiced times to try and pretend that things are anywhere near as bad today.

As a result of this we started to see more and more positive representation for women and other minorities to the point where by the 21st century I’d say that western audiences didn’t care at all what gender, race or sexuality a character on tv had.

Throughout the 60’s and the 70’s many strong roles for women on film and tv began to pop up, such as The Bionic Woman, Wonder Woman 70’s series, Charlies Angels, and the Alien film series. Similarly more leading roles for black people began to emerge on film and tv such as Sanford and Sons and Shaft.

For LGBT people meanwhile from the 70’s on there was more positive forms of representation, such as The Naked Civil Servant, a 1975 BAFTA winning drama which made a star of John Hurt and took us deep into how homophobic British society was. Many of the most popular entertainers and bands such as Queen and David Bowie’s acts had severe LGBT connotations as well.

By the end of the 90’s female heroes dominated the sci fi and fantasy market on television with Buffy, Xena and Charmed all being record breaking successes.

Until it was surpassed recently by Supernatural, Charmed was the longest running American fantasy series, whilst Buffy aside from being one of the longest running genre series was also one of the most influential too.

Xena meanwhile aside from being the most popular show in the world at the height of its success, was so popular that they actually named a planet after her, albeit briefly.

On top of that most of theses series had strong roles for LGBT characters, such as Tara and Willow in Buffy, or Xena and Gabrielle themselves.

Other mainstream series such as Will and Grace also revolved around LGBT characters, whilst here in the UK many of our most popular mainstream entertainers such as Alan Carr, Graham Norton and John Barrowman are not only openly gay, but part of their entire act is being gay! On top of that all our most popular soap opera’s such as Coronation Street, Eastenders, etc (which are our most popular tv shows in general) have all had main LGBT characters.

Not exactly the same as the 60’s when Frankie Howerd, one of the most popular entertainers on British tv was scared at the prospect of his sexuality being discovered, as it would have meant the end of his career is it?

Now again I am not saying that this proves that racism, sexism and homophobia are gone completely from our modern society.

However at the same time I think it does go to show that at the very least in the entertainment industry people no longer care about a characters gender, race or sexuality.

Modern western audiences will accept anyone. Hence why Alan Carr in contrast to Frankie Howerd from the 60’s is able to make his sexuality part of his act. Hence why Beyonce is the most popular singer in all of Western society now.

Jay Z and Beyonce Are The Worlds Highest Paid Couple

In fact in both 2015 and 2014, out of the top 10 richest singers in the world, only two were heterosexual, white men, whilst in 2016 only 4 were white, heterosexual men.

See here Top 10 Richest Singers 2016/15/14

Now you might be thinking that there still aren’t as many black people on television as white people. You would be right about that, but that does not mean that it is because audiences or producers hate black people.

It is because there simply aren’t as many black people as there are white people in western society. Tell me how many white people are there in Bollywood films?

In the United Kingdom black people make up just 3 percent of the population. In the US they make up only 12 percent of the whole population, whilst in other western countries like France they make up 3-5 percent of the population and in Germany they are a mere 300,000 of a population, which overall consists of 80.62 million people.

There are never going to be as many black people in western television series as white people. That does not mean that audiences will reject any black characters or performers that do appear, as demonstrated with the record breaking success of Beyonce, or the enduring popularity of actors like Will Smith, Samuel L Jackson and Idris Elba.

The recent Oscars controversy where the award ceremony was accused of racism, because it didn’t give as many awards to black performers as white ones was debunked when it was shown that in proportion to how many black actors there actually were in the entertainment industry. There was a near perfect representation at the Oscars.

See here No the Oscars are not racist

Furthermore I don’t think there is really any racist or sexist propaganda to combat in our society anymore. If a political party were to use a poster that said “if you don’t want a nigger for your neighbour then vote for us.” That would rightfully sink their chances. Similarly if anyone hung a sign that said no blacks allowed outside a pub, then they would be charged with a hate crime.

Representation is only really a useful tool in combating overt prejudice and propaganda. The more subtle kind that people aren’t even aware of. Needs fought in different ways.

Whenever anyone says “I need to be able to see someone like me on television” I’m sorry but I don’t think that matters anymore.

I myself am part of a minority. I am Scottish. There are barely 5 million Scots in the UK and hey we have a history of being persecuted too such as the Highland Clearances.

However ultimately I, nor any Scots person I have ever known has ever cared about Scottish representation. Growing up, it never bothered me that virtually none of the people I watched on television were like me. I am not trying to virtue signal here, as no one else I knew growing up in Scotland was bothered either. The most popular television series in Scotland have generally tended to be English or American.

Are people going to complain about a lack of Scots voices on television? Are people going to point to the fact that there aren’t nearly as many Scottish heroes or actors as proof that institutionalised racism against us exists?

No of course not because people accept rightfully with us that there aren’t as many Scottish actors because there aren’t as many Scots.

So why then do we not accept that is the case with other minorities such as black people? Well that leads me on to my next point.

Why Do People Still Pretend It Matters?

Frank Hampson, the creator of Dan Dare. 

One of the main reasons I think that people within the entertainment industry keep making out that representation does still matter is because they want to make themselves look better.

Gene Roddenberry, Frank Hampson and Terry Nation all gave strong roles for women and minorities in their work. Terry Nation produced possibly the first ever British genre series starring a woman, The Survivors, whilst both Gene Roddenberry and Frank Hampson presented a future in their most famous works (Dan Dare and Star Trek) where all the nations of the earth lived together. Roddenberry later broke new ground on American television by having the first ever interracial kiss on an American scripted television show.

All three writers and their works are still praised today for how progressive they were. A lot of writers naturally want to be remembered in the same way, but like I said before times have moved on.

Nowadays audiences are completely accepting of black and female characters. Back in the 50’s, Frank Hampson could be controversial simply by having a black character or a woman being a leading scientist. Even in the middle of the 60’s Gene Roddenberry could break new ground simply by having a black woman and a white man kiss.

Today would anyone even notice if there was a black character who was a scientist? Or if a black woman and a white man kissed each other on tv?

Unfortunately so many writers and directors still want the kudos that the likes of Gene Roddenberry got. So they lie that things are just as bad as they were in the 60’s and that by simply having a black character in their work they can be seen as a social justice champion like Roddenberry.

Everybody wants to be Gene Roddenberry.

J.J. Abrams I feel is an example of someone like this. In this interview here, Abrams says he was disgusted by the fact that most of the actors at an award ceremony were white, and so he was going to rectify the “problem”.

See here J.J. Abrams On Diverse Star Wars Cast

The thing is the policy that Abrams has employed is to start with racist itself. He openly admitted to refusing to hire someone based on their skin colour.

Also I feel that its terrible to lump all whites together as privileged people who never suffer racism.

Ironically white skinned people have been the victims of some of the worst genocides and slave trades in the history of mankind, such as the 6 million Jews killed in the holocaust.

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White Slaves of Barbary

Of course Frank Hampson and Gene Roddenberry didn’t simply write all white people off as being privileged. Roddenberry had among his crew a Russian as at that point due to the cold war era paranoia, there was plenty of hostile feeling towards Russians in America too. Checkov was designed to counteract this “Russophobia” as much as Uhura was meant to counteract the racism from organisations like the KKK.

In the UK meanwhile during the 50’s there was wide spread racism against the Irish, and Dan Dare counteracted this by having there be an Irish member of Dan’s team, Lex O’Mailey.

Roddenberry and Hampson cared about combating prejudices against all groups of people, white or not. The reason for this was because I feel that their desire for representation came from a genuine desire to help marginalised groups, rather than to simply virtue signal to their Hollywood friends like Abrams.

I might be doing Abrams a disservice, but his anger at the casting room being white just sounds so manufactured and for show. Also I don’t get what it is he thinks he is combating?

Does he really think that casting a black actor is going to be a big deal? If so he’s the one ironically living in the 50’s.

Was there any controversy over this movie where the two main heroes were black? Nope, so why would Abrams think he is breaking new ground by having a non white hero, 20 years later!

Sadly Abrams is not alone in this train of thought.

Emma Thompson recently after the famous no black actors at the Oscars controversy claimed that the Oscars are all decided by racist white men and even made a joke about how she would love to kill them all slowly.

Thing is it didn’t seem to bother her when she was winning an Oscar back in 1993.

 

Say what you will about Marlon Brando, but he stuck to his guns. He felt there was racism in Hollywood so he outright refused to accept an Oscar.

Thompson on the other hand? She’s happy to accept one when it furthers her career, but then when its trendy to complain about the lack of diversity in Hollywood, she joins in attacking the very people who helped boost her career back in 1993.

Russell T Davies the producer of Doctor Who from 2005-10, I also feel falls under this category. He blasted a rival science fiction series called Primeval simply for having an all white cast.

Russell T Davies Blasts Primeval For All White Cast

Considering that Primeval is made and produced in the United Kingdom, its not so surprising that most or all of its cast would be white. Its not like there are no black people in it.

I very much doubt that the producers of Primeval turned down great black actors for their main characters because they were black. I believe that they cast all of the leads in Primeval because they thought they were the best actors for those characters.

Now I am sure Russell who never had a bad word to say about the cast (in fact he said the show all around was excellent.) Would agree, so what did he want the makers of Primeval to do then? Not to cast actors they thought were the best for those roles, simply because of the colour of their skin? That not a little… racist?

Some of the people who claim representation in the media matter may also do so out of fear too. Steven Moffat, Doctor Who’s current producer I think is an example of this. He has recently begun to go on about representation being important, but I think this is more to do with the severe feminist backlash he endured over his work being sexist.

Of course I personally don’t think there was anything even remotely sexist about Steven Moffat’s work on Doctor Who or anything else. Sadly in this current “lets get offended by everything” climate he was tarred with that brush by the mainstream media, and since then he has by a bizarre coincidence become obsessed with representation.

Others meanwhile I think use representation not just to get kudos from their Hollywood elite pals, and the mainstream media, but to actively further their own careers. Nowadays I think a lot of people like to sell their product based on the fact that it has great representation for someone.

Take a look at the latest Ghostbusters movie. It was pretty much sold on being a film about female empowerment and representation. Even before the backlash began. Take a look at this publicity picture.

I have no objection clearly to an all female franchise. Look at Xena. The two leads are women, and most of her rogues and supporting cast are women too.

Xena however could stand on more than just being a “girl power” show. Sadly in the case of the Ghostbusters  I think the director Paul Feig was aware that being a remake of a much beloved 80’s classic, there was a danger that people would just dismiss it as yet another pointless reboot. Thus in order to counteract this inevitable criticism, Paul focused on the whole “its for representation” thing to sell it to audiences and also make it immune to criticism.

Of course as we all know it backfired considerably. Even if the publicity team hadn’t gone to the effort of tarring all of their critics as sexist, then the simple fact that the movies main feature was that it offered representation wouldn’t have worked either..

Why would anyone think in this day and age that simply having female heroes was anything special? I grew up on nothing but female heroes.

Xena, Buffy, Charmed, Dark Angel, Heroic Trio,  Kill Bill, Nikita, Once Upon A Time, Charlie’s Angels, Alien film series, Wonder Woman tv series, Bionic Woman, Earth 2, Star Trek Voyager, The Dead and the Deadly, Tru Calling, Dollhouse, Underworld film series, Scream film series, A Nightmare on Elm Street, Halloween, 1,2, 5 and H20, Ghost Whisperer, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Friday the 13th, Day of the Dead, The Bride with White Hair, Terminator 1 and 2, Jessica Jones,  Survivors (original and remake), and Resident Evil.

Added to that there are plenty of shows about a male and female hero such as The X-Files, and The Avengers. Even in certain male led series such as Red Dwarf and Futurama, the female character is still the strongest, most intelligent and capable, like Leela and Kochanski.

So really with this in mind why would Ghostbusters 2016 stand out as anything important just for having female heroes? Answer it wouldn’t but Paul Feig is still going to pretend that it does to flog his otherwise mediocre remake of a beloved film as lets be honest it had absolutely nothing else going for it.

Paul Feig I think shot himself in the foot, head and various other places career wise with the way he tried to promote this film.

Other people meanwhile who are career feminists like Anita Sarkeesian still make out that representation matters for the same reason they still cling on to other outdated examples of sexism. They need naive young people to believe sexism is everywhere not just simply to further their careers like Paul Feig, but because it is the basis for their entire career overall.

If she wasn’t complaining about things being sexist, what would Anita Sarkeesian do for a living? Frank Hampson and Gene Roddenberry would still be iconic sci fi writers, even J.J. Abrams and Paul Feig would still be big shot directors. Anita however?

She needs the patriarchy for cash.

Of course the great irony to this is that sexism is still a problem in many countries around the world, but people like Sarkeesian won’t comment on it. There is no money involved in that and they are too scared.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali for speaking out against Islamic countries treatment of women has received death threats and is forced to walk around with body guards.

People like Sarkeesian and big shot film directors however for all their talk of being “social justice warriors” would much rather pick a battle that has already been won and white knight over that to bask in the feminist and progressive praise, and of course if possible make a little bit of money out of it. But when it comes to tackling actual sexism, they are to put it bluntly, too shit scared to say a thing.

Now you might think, even if that is true, what difference does it make? Well that leads to my next point.

The Harm Still Caring About Representation Causes

It has compromised many television series and films

I feel that many writers and producers nowadays often focus on representation above other important things like you know actually having a story.

The latest Ghostbusters film as a classic example of this. Its plot is paper thin. Its monsters are dull and uninspiring. The main focus of the film was simply that it was offering women representation. As a result of this not only were the monsters just tossed in as an after thought, but the films jokes and dialogue tended to focus on the fact that its leads were women more than anything else.

“I don’t know if this is a lady thing or a black thing but I’m mad as hell!”

Added to that when you care about filling diversity quota’s above all else, then you don’t always end up hiring the best actors, actresses, or writers either.

Take a look at Doctor Who, the worlds longest running science fiction series.

Steven Moffat recently cast a woman as the Doctors archenemy the Master. The only reason Steven Moffat did this was for representation. Not only did he want to give women a strong role via the Master, but he also hoped that a female Master would pave the way for a female Doctor too.

Moffat however went one step further by having the female Master, Missy be actively in love with the Doctor, again for LGBT representation. This was a complete betrayal to what the character was meant to stand for.

Colin Baker who played the 6th Doctor sums up the appeal of the Master brilliantly in this quote.

“My favourite enemy is the Master, because Sherlock Holmes has his Moriarty, and while most monsters have no particular desire to destroy the Doctor, the good thing about the Master is that it’s a personal matter, so there’s great opportunity for confrontation.”

However now all of that has been tossed in the bin, as the female Master is in love with the Doctor and actually wants to win him back as her boyfriend more than anything else.

The Master in the 1970’s. A relentless and implacable foe of the Doctor that simply would not rest even as his world was crumbling apart around him until he had killed his archenemy. 

The Master in the 2010’s after feminists managed to get their claws into the Doctor Who franchise. Anyone who says she’s believable as the villain in the above video is A/ lying B/ an SJW or C/ has never seen Classic Who. 

Furthermore in addition to this the Masters other main motivation aside from killing the Doctor was to conquer the Universe. Missy however does not seek any kind of power as again all she cares about is winning the Doctor back. In fact in her first appearance, she gives up an army of unbeatable Cybermen just to win the Doctor back!

Its terrible to essentially throw out the Masters main motivation and development as a character as it basically makes it look like it didn’t matter.

Its like rewriting it that Magneto doesn’t care about Mutants rights and that his main motivation was to fuck Jean Grey instead.

Also I might add its a huge come down for the Master too. Before this used to be a villain that was desperate to reshape all of creation in his own image, where as now he is relegated to being basically the heroes jealous ex?

Finally on top of ruining the character Steven Moffat’s need for representation also led to him casting an actress who was not right for the Master.

Michelle Gomez who played the female Master, Missy is a fantastic actress but she wasn’t right for the character of the Master, because, well he’s a man! It would be like casting Jack Nicholson as say Supergirl. Yeah Jack is great, but he wouldn’t exactly be right for that part.

Imagine that you are the casting director for Doctor Who series 8 and you are told that the Master will be returning to the show and you have to cast that character. Now leaving aside representation, political correctness etc, imagine you are casting this character based 100 percent on who the right actor for the role is.

Remember THIS is the character of the Master.

Okay that’s the character. Now who are you going to cast, based on who is the right person for the role out of these 6 actors. Charles Dance, Simon Templeman (voice of Doctor Doom), Robert Carlyle, David Warner (voice of Ra’s Al Ghul), Jason Watkins and Michelle Gomez.

I don’t think there is ANYONE who would cast her in the role over those 5 guys based solely on who was the best for the part.

The only reason that Michelle was miscast as the Master, and that the Master was made into the Doctors lover instead of his archenemy, was all for representation.

I might add that since Doctor Who started to pander to the need for representation, then its viewers have sunk.

See here. Doctor Who’s Ratings Fall To Record Low

Comic books have also suffered greatly for this desperate need for representation too. Marvel have begun to replace many of their male characters with female ones. Wolverine, Tony Stark and Thor have all been replaced with female counterparts as part of a move to bring greater diversity to the Marvel universe.

Now understandably many fans have been upset with this. Not because they can’t stand female heroes, but because they like these characters and therefore don’t want to see them be replaced with other people.

There have been examples of these characters being replaced by other men, and the fans not liking them, such as Damian Wayne taking over from Bruce Wayne or Doc Ock taking over from Peter Parker as Spider-Man.

Still just like with the Ghostbusters movie, anyone who doesn’t like this trend has been called a sexist. The female Thor was even given a strawman anti feminist to fight.

In a time when Marvels readers should be higher than ever due to the mainstream success of the movies, they are enduring record losses instead.

Comics You Have Your Diversity So Why Aren’t You Buying Them

Why Female Thor Is Selling So Poorly

Obviously its got nothing to do with readers rejecting female heroes in general. If that were the case why did larger audiences lap up Xena and Buffy and Charmed and Once Upon A Time? Why does the Wonder Woman trailer have a near universal approval rating? Its because people don’t want their favourite heroes replaced for some bullshit diversity.

Marvel don’t care however. They simply want to get brownie points for diversity. Introducing a new character however takes time and effort to make them one of the all time popular characters.  Wolverine for instance was introduced much later than many of the rest of the X-Men, and he ended up becoming the most popular one, but only after, many, many years and writers.

Thus once again a pointless need for diversity and representation has compromised a great work of fiction.

It provides terrible representation for minorities

Ironically I feel that casting actors for diversity is a terrible way to represent people. Its essentially saying that the only way they can succeed is if the system is rigged for them rather than on their own merit.

Take a look at this example from the New Doctor Who. Here Steven Moffat has openly said he cast the new companion Pearl Mackie solely to have a black actress in the show.

Steven Moffat on Doctor Who Diversity: We Need To Do Better

Now I am not saying Pearl Mackie will be a bad companion. I haven’t seen her in action yet. For all I know she might be good, but sadly Steven Moffat has said before she even has a chance to start that she is only there to tick boxes.

I had this baffling idea that if we just threw open each part to everybody then it would all work out in the end. I put my faith inexplicably in the free market. It doesn’t work. You’ve got to gauge where you’re looking for the talent“.

-Steven Moffat on casting Pearl Mackie

How can anyone say that that is good for black people? Apparently black people can’t ever succeed when being forced into a fair competition with white people. So Moffat had to exclude all white people, or “gauge” where he got the talent from in order to cast a black person?

And what has been accomplished by doing that? A black actor is now in Doctor Who? Yeah its not like its ever had a black companion before is it?

I honestly don’t think that you have to give black actors any role for representation. Black actors in the modern world, can get any part (excluding certain historical figures) they want. Provided they are right for it.

Look at Red Dwarf, a classic British sci fi comedy where half the cast is black (and again no one noticed!)

Originally Alan Rickman was considered for the role of Dave Lister. Rickman was eager to play the role. He called the script one of the most original and intelligent scripts he had ever seen.

However Craig Charles a black man won the role, simply because he was the best man for the part.

Alan Rickman was obviously one of the greatest British actors, but he would not have been good as Lister. His portrayal of Lister would have been a posh, somewhat uptight character, which would have been too similar to Arnold Rimmer, Lister’s bunk mate.

Craig Charles however brought a slobbish, blokish, every day quality to Lister which contrasted wonderfully with the prissy uptight Rimmer and created a perfect odd couple, squabbling brothers dynamic.

So yes in the open market a black guy did beat a white guy because he was the best for the role. I might add the black guy Craig Charles wasn’t even really an actor. He was a poet! A fucking poet beat out one of the most acclaimed, and versatile actors for the role of a lead in a sitcom because he was the best person for the part, and race didn’t enter into it for either.

Now I don’t think Red Dwarf is such a special show. Don’t get me wrong I adore it, but what I mean is I don’t think that its makers are the only non racist people in the entertainment industry. In fact I think that its probably typical in terms of how things are cast. The best actor gets the gig. Who gives a fuck about skin colour? The best person for the job is the only fair way to do it.

Also more importantly I feel that when these characters are there to be “the black character” or “the female character” then they are often written as such.

Look at Class the recent Doctor Who spin off whose creator Patrick Ness has often spoken about how important representation is.

Patrick Ness “The Only People Who Don’t Think Representation Matters Are The People Who Have Always Been Represented

Patrick Ness “Lack of LGBT Representation Bothers Me

Now Class’s black character Tanya Adeola, often complains about white people, and how lucky they are. Compare her to Lister from Red Dwarf, who has many fights with Rimmer, his white bunk mate, yet not once is either men’s race mentioned.

TANYA: White people.
APRIL: White people what?
TANYA: Always so optimistic. Always so certain things are going to work out for you. Oh, well, because they usually do.
APRIL: My dad tried to kill me when I was eight.
TANYA: But you got your mum up walking again. Typical white-person happy ending.

LISTER: You never said much about your father.
RIMMER: No.
LISTER: You must have been pretty close.
RIMMER: Close.
LISTER: Was it very close?
RIMMER: Close. (Pause) I hated him. I detested his fat stupid guts, the
pop-eyed, balding git.
LISTER: What?
RIMMER: He always wanted to join the Space Corps — be an officer. But
they wouldn’t take him because he was an inch below regulation height.
One inch. I had three brothers. When we were young he bought a
traction machine so that he could stretch us. By the time my brother
Frank was eleven he was six foot five. Every morning he’d measure us
and if we hadn’t grown, back on the rack.
LISTER: Sounds like he had a screw loose.
RIMMER: I don’t think he had one screw fully tightened, to be perfectly
honest with you. He had this fixation that we all had to get into the
Space Corps. At meal times he’d ask us questions on astronavigation.
If we got them wrong — no food.
LISTER: God, Rimmer, how did you cope with that?
RIMMER: I didn’t. I nearly died of malnutrition.
LISTER: I had no idea. I thought you adored your parents.
RIMMER: When I was fourteen I divorced them.
LISTER: What?
RIMMER: I took them to court. I got paid maintenance until employment
age and access every fourth weekend to the family dog.
LISTER: So why are you so completely blown away about him dying then?
RIMMER: Oh, it doesn’t mean to say I don’t respect him, didn’t look up to
him. It was only natural — he was my father.
LISTER: There’s nothing natural about your family, Rimmer.
RIMMER: It’s just I always wanted just once, just once, for him to say to
me, “well done.”
LISTER: For what?
RIMMER: For something, for anything. I wanted him to be proud of me,
just once.

See what I mean? Which black character comes off as more likable there?

The funny thing is Lister and Rimmer normally hate each other. Yet Lister still shows Rimmer more empathy and compassion than Tanya shows to someone who is meant to be her best friend!

Needless to say if I were black I’d not only despise Tanya. I’d actually find the fact that Patrick Ness thought that how black people wanted to be represented on tv was as a whiny, self obsessed racist; who still sees someone whose dad tried to kill her as being privileged because she’s white, deeply offensive.

Similarly compare these scenes from Xena, a show again by people who didn’t care about representation, only in making a fun, camp, adventure series, to the modern day version of Supergirl, a show by people who care a lot about representation.

Which one of these two series do you think has better female characters?

Of course the great irony is that when you highlight how great it is that you have black or female leading characters in the actual work itself, it actually looks like it belongs in the 50’s more than something that doesn’t have that diverse a cast like Primeval.

When you look at something from the 50’s or 60’s like say Dan Dare you can see how its more aware that it has female or minority heroes than a later progressive work like Once Upon A Time is.

For instance Professor Peabody, Dan’s leading female scientist often has to deal with sexism from people who don’t take her seriously in her profession because of her gender. That was okay for the time it was released in 1950. Back then it was genuinely unusual for audiences to see a woman in that kind of role.

A woman would also genuinely struggle in the real world to be taken seriously in the type of profession Peabody was in back then too, so having her shut down Sir Hubert’s sexism was a good thing and represented real problems women would have endured.

However that was the point by the time of Red Dwarf and Xena as we have seen no one cared anymore about a woman being the hero, or a black guy being the main character. So Xena didn’t need to say “Hey look how amazing it is that there is a woman hero” and similarly Red Dwarf has never even mentioned Lister’s race or the fact that he and his main love interest, Kristine Kochanski are in an interracial relationship.

Now however things like Supergirl and Class have actually dragged us back to the 50’s where everybody has to act amazed at the prospect of a female hero and the female hero has to remind us that she is a woman all the time, and every black character has to tell us how hard it is being black, and how every white person is lucky to be white.

Of course if you’ve set something in the 50’s or a less enlightened time then fair enough, you will most likely have to comment on the racism and the sexism of the time if you’re hero is a woman or minority, but the likes of Supergirl and Class are set in modern day, so they have no excuse.

It leads to people being fired

In an effort for greater diversity, certain companies have begun to fire white men from their jobs in order to give minorities more opportunities.

Here are some examples.

Now Presenter Fired For Diversity

Man Fired From Autumn Watch For Being Too White

I find it funny in a way that people like Gene Roddenberry and Terry Nation were able to give women and black people strong and heroic roles in genuinely racist and sexist times without having to fire people from their jobs. In the modern world meanwhile where there is a true meritocracy, the BBC still can’t give minorities jobs without employing racist policies towards white people.

No one is entitled to a job based on skin colour or gender. No one deserves to be excluded from one either whether they are white or black.

Conclusion

Obviously I have no problem with television series starring non whites. Some of my absolute all time favourite series star female characters. Still at the same time something that has a cast made up of one gender, such as Supernatural, or Xena, or Charmed, or Bottom, or Ab Fab, does not deserve to be called sexist, or changed to be artificially more diverse

Diversity and representation only matters if we are living in a time when people are being excluded and treated as inferiors because of who they are.

Ultimately however whilst I am not saying our society is perfect, thankfully we have moved on from the dark days of the 60’s and the 70’s. I feel that in the entertainment industry at least and in terms of what audiences are willing to accept, we do live in a society where any type of person can be accepted.

Representation has served its purpose in the fight for equality. Its time just to let the meritocracy judge everyone in a fair way and try and find other ways to tackle the still very real prejudice in the world today.

Let me know what you think in the comments below.

16 thoughts on “Why Representation Doesn’t Matter And Saying It Does Is Harmful

  1. NICE ARTICLE. 10/10.You presented your points very well and backed it up with good proofs. Im just like you. Im a “minority”(black) and I believe that the whole “diversity” that modern day soceity is pushing is just racist and sexist. Its a shame that most people wont read this. With that said, I know a youtuber who talks about this too. He is called “appabend”. You should check him out.

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    • Thank you. I think its so silly to take one little part of yourself, like your skin pigmentation, who you want to fuck, where you were born and let that define EVERYTHING about you to the point where unless a show stars a person with the same sexual preference as you its terrible.

      I mean hey why stop there? I could whine about how there aren’t as many Scots on tv and then when there are I could bitch about how “oh there aren’t as many heroes who prefer women with dark hair to women with blonde hair. Growing up all my heroes preferred blondes. Batman his love interests are Kim Basinger, Nicole Kidman, Michelle Pfiefer, Doctor Who his love interests are River Song, Rose Tyler, Madame DePompadour. I felt my story of a guy who preferred women with dark hair was never told!”

      Again I can understand when a certain group is being persecuted that it can feel better watching someone like you on tv, but again who the hell is still being persecuted in western society?

      Thank you for the youtuber recommendation. I will check him out. Do you watch Chris Ray Gun, ShoeOnHead and Blaire White? They are among my favourite anti SJW’s.

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  2. Absolutely agree with this! The issue I’ve found is that the discourse around it only seems to increase people’s prejudices. Having a heightened awareness of race/sex, unsurprisingly, does not actually make people less bigoted. (A bit like how unconscious bias training increases people’s biases) And I notice you like Chris Ray Gun, ShoeOnHead and Blaire White- they’re some of my favourite youtubers too!!

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    • Thanks for the kind words. Yeah Chris, Shoe and Blaire are brilliant. Very accessible, fun, laid back approach to the SJW lunacy. Also how sexy is Blaire. God I hope she likes geeky Scottish guys LOL.

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  3. I’m not black but I’m also a “Person of Color.” I’m a Filipino woman but you don’t see me complain about the lack of Filipino characters in American TV shows, comic books, video games, and literature. I gotta admit, I DO want representation, BUT I do it myself. I’m not gonna demand that the media cater to my whims. If they want to be represented, then they can write their stories including women, minorities, and even an LGBT character.

    Did you know that Filipinos make up the largest group of Asian Americans? There are more Chinese, Filipinos, and Indians in America but there’s not too many shows including Filipinos. Technically speaking, we are still a minority. None of us complain because majority don’t care about that. What matters is that a show, movie, or a book is entertaining and well written.

    I don’t see white people complaining about the lack of Caucasian representation in Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon or not being featured in any Bollywood films. The same goes for Japanese manga and anime, Korean telenovelas, and in Mexican telenovelas.

    The reason why there are more white characters is because the majority of people in America are white. If anything, America is more diverse compared to other countries.

    I admit that at some point in time, I too was brainwashed by SJWs into thinking that I’m being oppressed because there’s not too many Asians that I can relate to.

    Sorry for rambling but this is getting out of control.

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    • Don’t apologise for the rambling LOL. That was a fine comment and I couldn’t complain even if it was a ramble as that’s part of the name of this blog “Burrunjorsramblesandbabbles”.

      I totally have no problems with a writer who thinks “you know I’d like to see more heroes like me” and so they go and create a character like them. That’s fine, its harmless and if its a good story then I’ll watch it and I won’t give a shit about it.

      However the current need for representation is so poisonous because it demands that EVERYTHING be diverse. Some stories work better from one genders perspective. Xena for instance is a very feminine show, whilst Supernatural is very masculine. I wouldn’t want either to be tampered with to be more diverse. What good would that do to mess with a great dynamic just so the makers can say “LOOK WE HAVE 50/50 REPRESENTATION!”

      As long as there is an equality of opportunity then who cares? Equality of outcome is irrelevant.

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  4. AWFSGFAGSSGSF THIS IS THE FUNNIEST THING I HAVE EVER SEEN. YOU HAVE SO CLEARLY NEVER FACED ANY KIND OF OPPRESSION OH MY GOD THIS IS COMICAL. THIS IS THE STRAIGHTEST AND WHITEST THING IVE EVER READ. YOU SERIOUSLY LIVE IN THIS WORLD AND DONT THINK RAPE CULTURE IS REAL?? LOOK AROUND BITCH. THE ONLY REASON YOU DONT CARE ABOUT REPRESENTATION IS BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO YOU YOUR ENTIRE LIFE. AND JEEEEEEEEESSUUUUUS CHRIIIST DID YOU JUST SAY THAT WHITE PEOPLE HAVE EXPERIENCED RACISM FOR BEING JEWISH OR IRISH?? IM S C R E A M I N G. HOW DO YOU BELIEVE THIS SHIT??

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    • I normally laugh at these hysterical comments, but I’ll be more polite here.

      How on earth can you say that Jewish people have never experienced racism?

      And PS white people experience racism all over the world.

      In the United Kingdom white women have been abused on an unprecedented scale for being white! https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiJm8Ho0LzXAhXPJlAKHUCsCBQQFggoMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.thetimes.co.uk%2Farticle%2Fwhite-women-are-good-only-for-people-like-me-to-use-as-trash-jc7bvcjcb&usg=AOvVaw1AsVzPJmEOAsvtYYtsKF6b

      Funny how this doesn’t register with SJWs. The only kind of rape culture in the west is one that is being imported from third world Muslim countries, and that ironically no one can say anything about out of fear looking racist, which leads to things like in the above article.

      And again I’m Scottish. How well represented have Scottish people been? Have we not had a history of persecution either? You would consider me well represented compared to a black guy because I am white, even though I am Scottish.

      Okay then who is better represented between me a white Scots guy, and a black English guy? On the one hand there are more white people on tv like me, but on the other there are more English people than Scots. Both Scots and Black people have a history of persecution, so we can both have the same whiny “bad things happened to people like me years ago” attitude. So why can’t I comment on representation? As a Scot I have every right too. (I would even if I wasn’t part of a historically persecuted minority anyway. Excluding someone for their skin colour and gender is textbook bigotry.)

      Its stupid to take one little bit of yourself and let that define every single aspect of yourself to the point where unless a character has that trait you can’t enjoy them. What importance is it if a hero has the same skin pigmentation as you, unless you are being abused for that skin pigmentation by society?

      It reminds me of that bit from the Simpsons where there’s the character called Homer Simpson and Homer gets all excited “HIS NAME’S LIKE MY NAME”

      Replace name with “HIS SKIN COLOUR’S LIKE MY SKIN COLOUR, HIS SEXUALITY IS LIKE MINE” and you can see how stupid it is. To be fair if you have to relate to another character, and you want to create one that you can relate too, go ahead, but don’t insist that this need for representation be forced on everyone else to the point where it may compromise their work.

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  5. Okay, you not thinking representation matters anymore does not mean that’s the be all and end all. Anecdotal “I never needed it!!!” isn’t an argument. YOU don’t need it, but that doesn’t mean nobody does. We have come a long way, but we are not there yet by any means. We still live in a world where Zazie Beetz is “pandering” but Scarlett Johansen is “the producer’s choice”. We still live in a world where a black model has to call Grazia magazine out for photoshopping her natural hair out of a picture. We still live in a world where a film called Gods of Egypt has no named Egyptian actors in it, where video games about mowing down South Asians can get away with it if they’re infected with a virus or possessed. We live in a world where acts of brownface are still committed in Hollywood film; see The Big Wedding, in which Ben Barnes is given a spray tan and told to “act Colombian”. Where Kal Penn shares numerous old scripts from auditions he did where he was told to “act more Indian”, i.e, act like Apu from The Simpsons, who is a white stereotype.

    I understand that you’re very passionate about this, but how does not having the representation conversation benefit you? I don’t think it benefits anyone, especially not when we know how impressionable children are. If they see themselves, for example in the case of Dr. Jocelyn Elders, who is cited as saying she would never have become a doctor had she not seen a black female doctor give a speech during her time in college. Elders has contributed enormously to the health industry since, and none of would have happened without that college speech.

    The point I believe you’re missing is that, you and me, we never really needed representation in this day and age because it’s literally there for us 24/7 and has been since we were small. In Australia, Aboriginal people are not treated well by the media. They are called moochers, they are either so “stuck” in their old cultural ways that they are completely devoid of societal influence, or they have tried to integrate and fell victim to drug and alcohol abuse. And there are next to no representations of these people aside from this. I could name maybe two? While representations of white Australians are all day every day 24/7. I never felt uncertain about what I could be because I saw it, I saw it everywhere. Kids who were my age, who saw those same white characters but just couldn’t relate? They could not see themselves.

    I also do not generally think you should bring up the past of white slavery or antisemitism to suit your cause. When a person of colour cites slavery, it is because while we no longer have slavery, racism is still rife in our society and they have to deal with it every single day. Scottish people aren’t marginalised right now. Irish people aren’t. Jewish people aren’t. Of course white history existed, but it has also phased out of existence in our current society. They are not a reliable argument to make in this case. For black people, they still have very real issues to face. To say those issues are gone, simply because they aren’t as bad as they used to be, undermines those people as a whole.

    I know you explicitly said that we shouldn’t stop making non-white content, and obviously I agree on that. But when you say representation can’t be a thing anymore, we lose half of that non-white media, because so much of it is created by the people who missed out on that representation when they were young and want the new generation to have it, and to see that they can be something. Kids are damn impressionable, dude. With all I have said already, you have the wrong idea about representation. At it’s core, it is not about discrimination, but rather just about being a basis for people to be inspired by. Representation doesn’t have to be some big scary SJW agenda. It has extremely positive effects on our society. You and I don’t need representation anymore but kids do, because it’s what ultimately helps them figure out who they are and what they want for themselves. It not being important to you does not mean it will never be important to anyone.

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    • Well I appreciate that you took time with this response and didn’t resort to insults unlike all the other comments I get from people who care about representation and things like a female Doctor, but sorry I think you’re wrong.

      Okay the case you brought up, Jocelyn Elders was from decades ago. This woman was born in the 30’s. She would fall into the category of what I was saying in that representation mattered then because there was actual racism against people like her. When she saw a black doctor she would have been inspired because she would have seen that not everyone like her is held back by racism.

      However that’s the point in modern society tell me what barriers are there to women, black people, or LGBT people? What jobs can you not get that I can?

      How are blacks more marginalised than Scots? Ironically I’d say that there are far more black actors on British tv than Scots (not that I care or think that’s proof of racism against us.) Still blacks are actually a smaller percentage of the population.

      And the fact that white actors might get chosen for roles over black actors is not that unusual. After all there are more white actors in the west, because there are more white people! How many white guys are there in Bollywood leading roles?

      And Apu is hardly proof of racism. He’s a stereotype yes, but so what? There are stereotypes of EVERYONE in comedy shows. In fact Apu is positive and mild compared to others. Apu is a hardworking, well liked, attractive, brave, loving family man who has integrated into his new culture, but kept his old one, with any attempts by the regulars like Homer at mocking it, being treated with contempt by the writers and other characters.

      Compare him to how the Irish were treated in Family Guy and the Simpsons, as ugly, drunken morons and thugs, or the English! Ugly, wimpy, pasty, freaks “British people are lovely. Not physically of course.” “Kill all the girls who are prettier than me.” “Well that would just leave England.”

      Look at the Germans who are always portrayed as psychopaths, the Jews who are always portrayed as nerdy, unathletic, momma’s boys in things like Simpsons, South Park, Family Guy, Friends etc. Or hey my people the Scots who are often portrayed as psycho’s and thugs too?

      How is Groundskeeper Willie any more different to Apu? Both stereotypes, both played by Americans doing funny accents, but one is deemed racist and the others not? Hell even Homer Simpson, Peter Griffin and others are stereotypes of Americans. The big stupid, fat, lazy, ugly, beer swilling average Joe!

      And the reason I think talking about representation has now become a problem is documented in the article, but I’ll go through it again.

      1/ It has led to people being hired solely to tick boxes which is terrible, as its condescending in the modern world, it means that the best person won’t always be hired for their job, and it can lead to white people being fired and ironically persecuted against.

      2/ When representation is upper most in people’s minds then it often leads to terrible female or black or LGBT characters. The reason for that is because the author basically wants the credit, and they know damn well that in the modern world no one would even notice if the hero was black. Again look at Red Dwarf. Who the hell even notices that in the second longest running and most popular British sci fi show half the cast are black!

      Its literally never been commented on in reviews or anything like that, so people like the makers of Supergirl who are virtue signalling gits, will not only boast about it in the mainstream media (which is actually harmful to women and minorities as it will lead them to believe that they can’t do it on their own.) but they will write it into the show too. They’re female characters will never shut up about how hard it is being women, black characters will all have a chip on their shoulder against every white character, their LGBT characters will have NO other personality traits but being LGBT.

      Now fair enough this doesn’t always have to happen if you care about representation, but it certainly is more likely too because again people want to show how their representation matters. They don’t want it to slip under the radar like Red Dwarf, and so again shows that don’t care about representation not only seem to have the better black, female or LGBT characters (like Red Dwarf, Xena etc) but they are actually less racist as the black actors like Craig Charles are clearly there on their own talent and merit, unlike say Pearl Mackie, who though I liked her, by Moffat’s own admission was given the role because she was black.

      Also all of these disasterous shows and films that cater to representation like Gb 2016 and Supergirl are actually going to harm female and black led forms of entertainment in the long run. Look at it this way, in the 90’s black people and women could be the leads in genre series and films like Blade, Red Dwarf, Xena, Buffy, and Charmed and they were just as good as any male, or white led series.

      However now whenever there is something starring a woman, or a black character you just know its going to A/ remind us of that every three seconds in a way that’s really condescending to the audience that treats them like . B/ Shit on all white men. C/ Make sure that the leads are never portrayed as weak like any hero is at some point.

      Thus ironically male led shows like say The Flash or Arrow that just avoid this shit in comparison to Supergirl are actually better and more popular because they star white men, and the writers obviously won’t have to stick this shit into them.

      3/ I think it in the modern world is a useful way of phoney feminists and posers like Anita Sarkeesian of sideswerving having to actually talk about things that matter. Representation is a battle that has been won, so these cowards are in no danger of being attacked like say Ayaan Hirsi Ali is from speaking out against Islam.

      Representation is therefore a distraction created by cowards and opportunists to throw us off the real problems.

      4/ When you put representation ahead of everything else it will compromise the show. Like look at Doctor Who. This bullshit female Doctor, female Master crap which has completely sunk the show all came about from representation.

      The pro female Doctor camp lost all of the arguments. It made no sense within the lore of the show, it was not a good fit, and in the case of the Master it completely and utterly destroyed that character. Yet it happened anyway because representation was deemed more important. To hell with things like established lore, 40, 50 years worth of character development all because representation is soooo important and to go against it is apparently sexist.

      The only slightly valid point you made was about the Aborigines. Fair enough that is a very complicated situation, but that doesn’t apply in the UK or most of the rest of western society.

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  6. Whilst I agree with the vast majority of what you say here, I do feel I should point out that I found the statement “members of the Tory party such as Peter Griffiths tried to use racist feelings towards black people in order to get elected as late as 1964” slightly misleading. I think this has to be seen in the context of the time and place. Remember that 1964 wasn’t even twenty years after the end of a war that saw Britain fighting to maintain its culture and identity. In spite of what many people would have you believe, unlike America there was no sizable black presence in Britain before the mid 1950s; there were certainly no black ‘communities’. My own father, who was born in London in 1937 and lived there until he was seven, tells me that he never set eyes on a black person in the flesh until he was in his twenties. Therefore, 1964 really wasn’t that late – barely ten years since the change began, in fact. British people were concerned that the very way of life, society and culture that they had just fought so hard to preserve was under threat of being irrevocably changed – as indeed proved to be the case.

    I’ve always personally felt that ‘colour’ is merely a signpost; a way to easily identify the issue. I feel that the real issue is, and always has been, culture. Believe me, the England I find myself living in today bears no resemblance to the country I grew up in. Today I find myself surrounded by people who do no speak my language, do not share my values and have transformed the world around me into something that they feel more at home with and that I actively do not like. I’m not ashamed to say that, frankly, I prefer my own culture to the one that has replaced it and If that offends anyone… well, too bad, it’s a fact.

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  7. This is an old article, and I acknowledge that, so you totally have the right to completely ignore this comment because it’s on an old outdated and I wouldn’t really blame you. But, it has a lot of things you’ve said in other articles, older and newer, and this is just where I happen to be putting my responses.

    Anyway, you do make a lot of good points about SJWs ignoring prejudice and racism where it really counts, and other things like that. Just getting that acknowledgement out of the way.

    The thing about Missy’s attitude towards the Doctor and everything else is that you associate it with the gender change. But, Moffat had never written a serious new version of the Master before. How he interprets the Master’s character may not be related to him writing the Master as a woman.
    Plus, remember, in the series the Master has gone through life-altering changes after living as a different person for a while, finding out about the drums and where they came from and what his purpose was, and the fact that he went back to Gallifrey defending the Doctor because he hated the opposition even more, and *then* regenerating… it’s understandable for someone to come out of that radically different in some ways.

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    • Hey Nathan good to hear from you again. Sorry that I’ve been out of the loop for a bit. This is just a difficult time of year for me. I have also been working on two mammoth articles. Both will be finished by the weekend.

      One will be look at actors who play monster hunters like Lucy Lawless, Bruce Campbell, Peter Cushing etc and the other will be looking at how the right and the left really are no different.

      In the past I feel I have been going on too much about left wing arseholes. People think that I am right wing as a result which couldn’t be further from the truth. So I am going to lay out my political leanings once and for all and show how tribalism is the biggest enemy to progress.

      As for Missy well I agree Moffat never had any respect for the character. He always slagged him off as a shit villain and didn’t bring him back throughout the entire Matt Smith era.

      Matt Smith wanted a Master story too. Once he researched the show he said that was the villain he wanted to see the most because obviously it would give him a chance to act alongside another actor.

      Moff IMO only brought the character back to use to make the gender bending crap canon. He didn’t care about the character or even know anything about him, which is also why there is absolutely NOTHING of the Master in Missy, but at the same time the pandering was the main motivation behind casting a woman and making their relationship romantic.

      Personally I don’t actually mind a female Master. You could have even done quite a neat story behind it.

      I would have had it that after the events of The End of Time and The Day and Time of the Doctor, the Time Lords were sent to, and trapped in another universe, the Master went with them. HIs body was dying, and so he stole Romana’s just like he did Tremas. The Time Lords would only have enough power to send one of their own through to find the Doctor who could help free them. Naturally they chose Romana.

      Thus the Master stole her body both to prolong his own life and escape. The Master in Romana’s body would then try and kill the Doctor to ensure the Time Lords would never return and he could build his own Time Lord empire.

      The Master would use the fact that the Doctor couldn’t hurt him without hurting Romana to his advantage.

      At the end of the story, the Masters mind would be forced to leave Romana and he’d take over the body of someone else (played by Robert Carlyle.) We’d then have Romana and the Doctor team up to find Gallifrey, after which you’d then give Romana her own show.

      I honestly don’t think anyone would even notice that way. Sadly however Moff did it in a stupid “lets make the Master a woman through regeneration” way which was at odds with everything that came before, and on top of that he ruined the Masters character and salted the earth for future writers to do something with the villain.

      Sorry but there is no defence for Missy. It was pandering and that should annoy all Doctor Who fans.

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  8. Those sound interesting.

    I never assumed you were right-wing, but I understand how it would happen.

    Well, I don’t really blame him for giving the Master such a long “break”. He could’ve just been waiting to make sure the Master’s reappearance got the impact he wanted.

    The thing though, is that you’re assuming all of Moffat’s motivations, when really tbh you don’t know what was going through his head. It SEEMS like these were his motivations, but nobody but him can really know. It’s just… I wouldn’t say all this stuff like he’s admitted it or I somehow saw inside his head.

    That would have been interesting, however because of Romana it would have to be written EXTREMELY well to make the nuWho-only viewers AND newer people unfamiliar with Davies’s run not feel like they were missing something.

    You’re a cool guy, but that’s… that’s a pretty big blanket statement there.

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  9. My life has been stunted because of the lack of portrayal of skinny, white, myopic nerds with psoriasis in superhero movies. That restricted my job choices so much that I ended up on the scrap heap as a quality manager with a £50k salary.

    Now I feel even more excluded because of the even rarer chances of balding, overweight, white, myopic nerds with psoriasis in leading roles in superhero movies.

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