Doctor Who Vs Star Trek

Doctor Who and Star Trek are the two most iconic science fiction television series ever made. They have amassed a following on a global scale like no other and have stood the test of time for over 50 years.

In this article I will be looking at the relationship between both series, the similarities between them, and finally I will also be judging which I find to be the best of the two. Though remember that this is just my opinion, and please by all means tell me which one you prefer in the comments below.

I tend to look at it this way. Star Trek is the Beatles of science fiction. Its the most famous one (probably due to the movies more than anything else.)

Even people who have never seen any version of Star Trek still know “Beam me up Scotty”, “KHAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNN”, . “He’ dead Jim”, “Its life but not as we know it”, “phasers on stun” green women, the fighting music etc.

Also like the Beatles the original Star Trek series was very up beat and optimistic and preached love and acceptance.

Doctor Who meanwhile was the The Rolling Stones of science fiction. It was the second most mainstream one certainly, but it was always a bit edgier than Trek. Trek obviously pushed the boundaries in positive ways too like having the first interracial kiss, but Who was like the Rolling Stones in that it enjoyed just provoking controversy.

Doctor Who had horrible monsters that terrified people, scenes of graphic violence like dolls strangling people, the Doctor being drowned etc, that scared the shit out of generations of children. It not only provoked controversy but absolutely thrived on it at times.

Also finally the Doctor is like Keith Richards in that he is someone who can also never die either.

Always remember that Star Trek is the Beatles and Doctor Who is the Rolling Stones.

                                                

Overview of Both Series

Before we start I’ll just give Trekkies who might not be as familiar with Doctor Who and Whovians who might not be as familiar with Star Trek an overview of the other series. Obviously skip this if you know both of them.

Doctor Who originally began in 1963. It revolved around a mysterious alien called the Doctor, who travels through time and space in his magnificent machine called the TARDIS, which stands for Time and Relative Dimensions in Space.

Originally the TARDIS had the power to change its outside shape and size in order to blend in with its surroundings, whilst its inside shape and size remain the same. However the device that does this, called the Chamelion circuit gets damaged in the first episode, resulting in the TARDIS assuming the form of a police box for the rest of the series.

The Doctors real name and identity has never been revealed, with the Doctor merely being an alias.

Originally the Doctor was played by William Hartnell, who played the character as a doddering, bad tempered, even somewhat callous, but still ultimately heroic character.

The show was a massive success right away, thanks in no small part to the introduction of the Doctors archenemies, the Daleks.

The Daleks were a race of totally inhuman monsters. Hideous slimy mutants, housed within tank like robots. The Daleks sought to exterminate all other life forms in the universe as they believed them to be inferior. Devoid of any compassion or pity, the Daleks were an instant sensation due to their ruthless nature, unique design, and frightening voices.

Throughout the 60’s Britain would be gripped in what would become known as Dalekmania which at one point even topped Beatlemania!

The show would continue to remain one of the most popular in the United Kingdom throughout most of its 26 year run. Sadly William Hartnell was not a well man when he played the role and was eventually forced to quit after just 3 years. The writers got round this by revealing that the Doctor had the power to change his entire body when he was mortally wounded. This process would become known as regeneration and it would later be revealed that the Doctor could do this 12 times allowing him to have 13 different bodies.

Whenever the Doctor regenerates though his entire appearance and outer persona change, he is still the same man underneath. Same consciousness, same memories, same core personality.

The Second Doctor would be played by Patrick Troughton, who would also play the part for 3 years before departing the show at the end of the 60’s. During Troughton’s time many other notable enemies of the Doctor would be established such as the Cybermen (who first appeared in Hartnell’s last story, but became prominent in Troughton’s time) the Ice Warriors and the Great Intelligence.

I think a large part of Doctor Who’s continued popularity is the strength of its rogues gallery in general not just the Daleks. Its surely no coincidence that the three most popular superheroes, Batman, Spider-Man and Superman have unquestionably the best villains. Of course I am not saying that this is the only reason these characters, and Doctor Who are popular. But still I think it certainly contributes to their massive popularity with children at least. 

In Patrick Troughton’s last ever story we were introduced to the Doctors race, the Time Lords. The Time Lords were the most advanced species in the universe, but they were forbidden to interfere in the affairs of other life forms, which is why the Doctor was a renegade from his own people.

Jon Pertwee took over in 1970 as the Third Doctor and would play the part for 5 years. During Pertwee’s time the Doctors most persistent single enemy was introduced, another renegade Time Lord, The Master! Much like the Doctor, the Master who was originally played by Roger Delgado, would be played by a number of different actors through the years.

The Master initially changed his appearance through regeneration, but later stories would show the villain after having used up all of his 13 lives, steal other people’s bodies like a Demon to prolong his life.

Tom Baker would take over as the Fourth Doctor in 1975. To date Tom is the longest running and the most popular actor in the role. He played the character for 7 years. During his time the show also developed a much bigger following abroad including in America in particular.

Peter Davison took over the part in 1981 and stayed for just 3 years. After he left, Colin Baker would take over as the Sixth Doctor. Sadly however Colin’s time was beset by problems with the BBC who at that point despised the show and wanted to finish it. He was dismissed from the role after just 2 years. Sylvester McCoy would then take over as the Seventh Doctor for another three years before the BBC finally pulled the plug on the show in 1989 after a 26 year run.

Doctor Who would later return for a one off 1996 tv movie which saw Sylvester McCoy hand over to Paul McGann. It would be another almost 10 years however before Doctor Who finally returned as ongoing series in 2005. The Ninth Doctor was played by Christopher Eccelston for just one year before he handed over to David Tennant.

During Tennant’s time Doctor Who would be restored to being one of the most popular shows in the United Kingdom, with Tennant being arguably the most popular Doctor since Tom Baker himself. Tennant stepped down from the part in 2010, with Matt Smith taking over as the Eleventh Doctor. In the 2013 story Time of the Doctor, Matt Smith’s incarnation regenerated into the 12th Doctor played by Peter Capaldi whose first series has just begun as of the writing of this article.

Star Trek meanwhile was created in 1966 by Gene Roddenberry. Its original pilot The Cage was very different to the later series.

Its main character was Christopher Pike, played by the late Jeffrey Hunter who was a more, conflicted, tormented character. His science officer was a cold and logical female character called Number 1. Spock played by Leonard Nimoy did still appear but he was a rather emotional character whose back story was not fleshed out.

The Cage despite being a classic piece of sci fi performed poorly with test audiences. In some ways I think it was just too ahead of its time with its strong, non sexualized female characters and its incredibly dark content such as Captain Pike being tortured by the Aliens who conjure up images of hell itself from his mind.

Star Trek was truly unlike anything else on tv at that time, or since.

The show would be retooled for a second pilot (being one of the few genre series to get two pilots along with ironically Doctor Who itself.) This second pilot featured James T Kirk played by William Shatner as the main character, whilst Number 1’s cold and logical personality was transferred to Mr Spock (ironically it had been women who had the most problem with Number 1, whilst Spock would later go on to become the most popular character with female audiences.)

Star Trek was set in the 23rd century. Humanity is living in a golden age where not only is there world peace, but mankind has branched out into space and made contact with other peaceful alien species such as the Vulcans.

Sadly however there are also many hostile species too, such as the warlike Klingons and the Romulans both of whom would go on to be the most iconic alien species in Star Trek.

The main characters are the crew of the Starship Enterprise whose job is to explore unknown areas of the universe, seek out new life forms and make contact with them.

Star Trek sadly was not initially a big success. In fact it was almost cancelled after its second season, but pressure from fans convinced the network to keep it alive for just one more year.

Fortunately whilst Star Trek was not that big a success at first it nevertheless developed one of the most devoted followings of any series, and would go on to be a massive success in syndication as well as abroad too. In the United Kingdom in particular it was incredibly popular during its initial run. After almost ten years Star Trek would return on the big screen this time in 1978.

Star Trek the Motion Picture was a reasonable success, but it would be the next movie, Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan released in 1982 that would completely revive the franchise.

Often hailed as one of the most moving scenes in cinema history. Star Trek 2 Wrath of Khan is undoubtedly one of the greatest films of all time and really secured Star Trek’s future as a major film and tv franchise.

Many more sequels followed featuring the original cast, but it wouldn’t be until 1987 that Star Trek returned to its original home on television.

This series Star Trek The Next Generation was set over 70 years after the original series and revolved around an entirely new cast of characters, led by Captain Jean Luc Picard, played by Patrick Stewart.

Star Trek the Next Generation ran for 7 years in total and much like its parent series, would be followed by a number of films.

The Next Generation introduced many new alien races to the Star Trek universe, including most notably the evil Borg, who went on to become among the most popular alien races in all of sci fi.

Whilst the Next Generation was on, a third Star Trek series, Deep Space Nine was produced. Deep Space Nine would also run for 7 years.

It was a radical departure from the previous two Star Trek series in that it was set on a space station rather than a Starship and focused on problems within the Federation rather than on exploring the universe. Its leading character was Benjamin Sisko played by Avery Brooks.

A fourth Star Trek series would be produced concurrently with Deep Space Nine called Star Trek Voyager which followed the exploits of Captain Janeaway, the shows first female lead played by Kate Mulgrew. The premise of the series saw the Starship Voyager become stranded in the Delta Quadrant, an area of space controlled by the Borg, and followed its crews attempts to get home.

Voyager was another massive success and ran for 7 years too. It would in turn be followed by a prequel series called Enterprise. Sadly however by this point the Star Trek craze of the 90’s had begun to fade and Enterprise would be axed after just 5 series in 2005.

Still its hard to keep a good franchise down (as Whovians know) and Star Trek would return just 4 years later on the big screen with a new trilogy of films based on the original series but set in a changed timeline which is still going strong as of the writing of this article.

Relationship With Each Other

Doctor Who and Star Trek have a very friendly relationship with one another.

There is a bit of a rivalry sure, buts its a very affectionate one (again like the rivalry between the Stones and the Beatles.)

It doesn’t hurt that many people who have worked on both shows are fans of the other. Jon Pertwee who played the Third Doctor was a massive Star Trek fan and even asked if he could interview William Shatner for British tv which he later did. Sylvester McCoy who played the Seventh Doctor was also a big fan of the original series too, whilst John Barrowman who played one of the Doctors best friends, Captain Jack Harkness was a massive fan of DS9.

In fact many prominent people who worked on Doctor Who have even said that they preferred Star Trek to Doctor Who!

Christopher Eccelston who played the Ninth Doctor was a big Trekkie as a child, and said that it was very important to him, whilst he claimed to have only ever fleetingly seen the original series of Doctor Who.

Christopher Eccelston: Why Star Trek is Important To Me

Freema Agyeman who played the Doctors companion Martha Jones also has named Star Trek as her favourite series too and said she would like nothing more than to be in it.

She may have been in love with the Doctor, but Martha would much rather have been on the Enterprise than the TARDIS.

Patrick Troughton who played the Second Doctor was also a huge Trekkie and used to watch the original series with his family far more than they ever watched Doctor Who. Ironically one of the last things Troughton ever did before his untimely passing according to Anthony Ainley who played the Master, was to get the autograph’s of the stars of the original Star Trek series.

Finally Richard Hurndall who took over the role of the First Doctor for the 20th anniversary story The Five Doctors after William Hartnell’s passing said that Star Trek was the only science fiction series he had liked.

“I think I’m a little too old to comprehend science-fiction, really. I’ve seen very few ‘Doctor Who’ episodes, but my favourite in the part is undoubtedly Patrick Troughton, who gets so much humour into it. I rather liked ‘Star Trek’, but otherwise I have left science-fiction to my grandchildren.”

As for the Star Trek crew meanwhile, Simon Pegg who plays Scotty in the new film series is a lifelong Who fan, whilst Patrick Stewart is also a big fan of Doctor Who as well. Leonard Nimoy also became a fan of Doctor Who in the 90’s and even expressed interest in directing a film based on the series. Sadly the plans fell through, but imagine how amazing it would have been if Mr Spock had been the person to bring Doctor Who back!

“Leonard Nimoy is a very pleasant, courteous, soft-spoken and generous man, who had already invested a great deal of time in researching Doctor Who. He had accumulated a fairly extensive collection of videotapes, covering all seven incarnations of the Doctor. We spent a fruitful couple of hours discussing the very basis of the show – what makes Doctor Who Doctor Who – as well as the psychology of its hero, companions, and various off-the-wall casting ideas.”

Many of the writers of the Next Generation were also big Doctor Who fans. Its not escaped people’s attention that The Borg are very similar to the Cybermen. Both are machine creatures who convert organic life forms across the universe into members of their own kind after all, and the writers of Star Trek acknowledged this by having the names of the first 6 actors to play the Doctor flash up on a screen.

Another episode of The Next Generation, Future Tense even featured a time capsule that was bigger on the inside than the outside!

Tom Baker was actually almost cast as a time traveller in another Next Generation episode, A Matter of Time, though sadly the plans fell through.

Many cast and crew members from both shows are also good friends with one another too, such as most notably Jon Pertwee and James Doohan who played the original Scotty. The two first met at a convention and got to know each other very well.

William Shatner is also good friends with John Barrowman, with again the two having gotten to know each other at conventions.

Finally Captain Kirk himself wished Doctor Who a happy birthday on its 50th anniversary in 2013, whilst many Doctor Who actors also helped Star Trek celebrate its 50th birthday in 2016

Nichelle Nichols and Freema Agyeman

Happy 50th Birthday Doctor Who From William Shatner

The two franchises did have an actual crossover with each other in 2012, a limited comic book series which saw the 11th Doctor and Captain Picard team up to take on the combined might of the Borg and the Cybermen.

On top of this Colin Baker who played the 6th Doctor will also be appearing in the fan series, Star Trek continues.

As you can see there is a lot of good will between both franchises. I think this might stem from the fact that Doctor Who and Star Trek somewhat paradoxically are very similar but also very different.

On the one hand the two shows are never really going to be rivals with each other because one is really the quintessential British sci fi series, whilst the other is obviously the greatest American sci fi series. Thus they compete in different markets in different ways. In America Star Trek is the mainstream, homegrown one, whilst Doctor Who is appreciated for being the foreign one, that’s unlike anything they have. In the United Kingdom meanwhile the opposite is of course true, with Doctor Who being the mainstream, homegrown one, and Star Trek the foreign one that’s unlike anything we have.

Thus they aren’t ever going to be threats to each other, but at the same time they do actually explore a number of the same themes as we will see.

Similarities Between Both Franchises

Doctor Who and Star Trek are quite different in a number of ways. One revolves around a central heroic character, and his sidekicks, whilst another is really more of an ensemble piece. The Doctor in Classic Who was also a very cold alien, distant, mysterious character, whilst the leads in Star Trek are obviously always very human.

Also I find that the aliens in Doctor Who tend to be monsters (apart from a few exceptions like obviously the Doctors people, the Time Lords.) In Star Trek meanwhile the aliens tend to be more human.

There are advantages and disadvantages to both types of alien of course.

On the one hand the aliens in Doctor Who are far more imaginative, scary, and their designs are all very unique and striking, so they tend to stick in you mind more. The Daleks design in particular could almost be considered a work of art.

With the aliens in Star Trek like the Klingons, the Cardassians, the Romulans and even the Borg, you can see that not nearly enough time and effort has been spent into making them seem alien and unique like the Daleks and the Sontarans. Basically the crew just stuck wobbly bits on the actors foreheads or ears and that was that!

At the same time however the fact that the aliens in Star Trek are more human allows the writers to flesh them out more and have them interact with the main heroes in a somewhat more deep and meaningful way than most of the Doctor Who aliens. You could never do a scene like the classic “in another life time we could have been friends” between Kirk and the Romulan commander from “Balance of Terror” with a Sontaran or an Ice Warrior or a Cyberman for instance.

Still despite these key differences, there are still a number of strong similarities and parallels that can be drawn between Doctor Who and Star Trek too.

To start with both Star Trek and Doctor Who have been able to run for so long because they are able to change their leads relatively easily for a number of reasons. The Doctor can regenerate, whilst the captain of the Enterprise can be easily replaced. Also both shows have such rich, imaginative universes filled with diverse races and creatures that there are always more stories to tell.

Another key similarity between both Doctor Who and Star Trek is that their leads are also more cerebral characters too. Whilst the likes of Kirk and the Third Doctor may be men of action when need be, ultimately all of the Star Treks leads, and the Doctors use their minds first and prefer peaceful solutions. They all will only ever kill as a last resort (which is sadly quite often.)

I also think quite an interesting parallel can be drawn between Captain Kirk and the Doctor too in the sense that both are people who in some ways are very strict in following the rules, but in others are quite rebellious. Both are also explorers who hate having to settle down and have a normal life. They are always desperate to search for the unknown, or go where no man or time lord has ever gone before.

Star Trek and Doctor Who would also often use aliens as political metaphors. In Doctor Who’s case the Daleks represented the Nazis and race hatred in general, whilst in Star Trek the Klingons represented the USSR, and the tensions between the Klingons and the Federation also represented the cold war paranoia that was rampant at the time too.

Both the Cybermen and Khan also represent technology being abused in an effort to try improve humanity.

Both series also were very progressive for their time as well, and have continued to be so in the decades since.

Now Star Trek and Doctor Who are really (apart from in a few stories) mostly politically neutral. They are entertainment for everyone to enjoy. Still they did often combat prejudices of the time through positive representation.

Star Trek had a multi racial crew, which included a Russian during the height of the Cold War, a Japanese man soon after World War 2, and a black woman during the height of the civil rights movement.

It also had the first ever interracial kiss in an American drama series. None other than Martin Luther King himself praised Star Trek’s progressive values and urged Nichelle Nichols not to quit the series.

Doctor Who meanwhile in various stories set in earth’s future such as The Tenth Planet, and The Moonbase would similarly depict a multi racial vision of the future, with The Tenth Planet featuring a black astronaut as one of its main characters.

Both series would also give strong roles to women too from Uhura, to Number One, to Barbara, to Sara Kingdom, to Zoe, to Liz Shaw, to Leela, to Sarah Jane Smith.

Of course that’s not to say that there still wasn’t some sexism and racism in Star Trek and Doctor Who. Its to be expected in television from the 60’s after all, but still by and large Doctor Who and Star Trek were decades ahead of their time.

Not surprisingly Doctor Who and Star Trek had a very special appeal to many marginalised groups of people throughout the 60’s and 70’s.

Due to the fact that it was one of the few series to give a strong role to a black woman, many black people were inspired by Star Trek, including actress Whoopi Goldberg who said watching Uhura on tv convinced her that she could be an actress. She later later landed a role on Star Trek The Next Generation too. Mae Jemison meanwhile an astronaut and the first African American woman in space was also inspired by Star Trek and later guest starred in Star Trek the Next Generation as well.

Doctor Who on the other hand has always had a special appeal to LGBT people. Throughout the entirety of the Classic era the Doctor was almost always portrayed as asexual. He as about the only leading male character who didn’t get the girl at any point.

Furthermore the character was also portrayed as an outsider who had fled his own people because he had never really fitted in and was also always a somewhat camp character too.

Thus for many gay men in the 60’s and 70’s the Doctor was the closest thing they had to a role model (it also didn’t hurt that the show was produced by a gay man throughout the entire 1980’s.)

For me, as a young boy and a teenager, growing up in the north of England, in a world where I could never imagine being a gay man, let alone settling down and finding someone, I think Doctor Who was really asexual. There were programmes like The Sweeney which were very much about men chasing women, men getting women, whereas with Doctor Who you had a show that never really dealt with that.” 

Doctor Who producer Phil Collinson on the impact Doctor Who made on his life growing up.

Finally both Star Trek and Doctor Who explore many similar science fiction ideas and concepts. Both involve exploring the furthest reaches of the universe, and both also feature many time travel stories.

Time travel is obviously not as big a feature of Star Trek as it is of Doctor Who (though interestingly enough Doctor Who prior to the 11th Doctors era never really had that many stories that focused on time travel, with time travel instead always being used as merely a plot device to get the Doctor somewhere.)

Still many of the most popular Star Trek stories do focus on time travel such as The City on the Edge of Forever and Star Trek 4 The Voyage Home. Both stories explore alternate time lines as a result of the main characters meddling in the past and also touch on ontological paradox’s too and events that main characters might want to change, but are unable to because it will be catastrophic if they did such as Kirk saving Joan Rivers, or Rose saving her dad.

Whilst they have very different styles, as you can see they are at their core very similar shows and in the final section of this article I am going to draw up a list of specific examples of the franchises exploring similar stories and characters, in order to see which I prefer. I will also look at what I feel to be the best episodes of both series and the main characters as well.

1/ Most famous leading man

Tom Baker                                                                                  

William Shatner

Now this was a very hard one to choose. Tom Baker and William Shatner are both legends. To this day there are no two actors who are more closely associated with these franchises which is no mean feat considering both franchises have more or less being running for the past 5 decades continually in some form or another.

Both men had huge personalities and were of course shameless hams too and gave us endless moments of joy with their crazy over the top shenanigans. However more importantly both men were also great actors when they needed to be and could inject real gravitas into their larger than life characters when needed such as in “Search for Spock” when Kirk discovers that the Klingons have murdered his son, or in “Genesis of the Daleks” where the fourth Doctor is wondering on whether or not he has the right to destroy the Daleks.

Both men as you can see from these clips took the stronger scripts seriously, but for the poorer stories would often overact which in turn would elevate them greatly.

See what I mean?

So who’s better? Again hard to say but I am going to have to go with Tom here. I feel bad saying that anyone is better than William Shatner, but I’m going to go with Tom only because based on everything I have ever seen of Tom outside of Who he just actually is the fourth Doctor. Willaim Shatner does have certain similarities with Kirk, but not to the same extent as Tom does with the fourth Doctor. If anything the fourth Doctor is just a stripped down version of Tom Baker.

Winner

2/ Main Heroes Best Friend

Brigadier Alistair Gordon Lethbridge Stewart

Spock

Though the Doctor has had many companions over the years I think its fair to say that The Brigadier is his best friend. Brigadier Alistair Gordon Lethbridge Stewart was the head of UNIT, an organisation designed to track down alien threats. The Doctor worked with him during his exile on earth, but the Brig would go on to meet the Doctor throughout many of his incarnations.

Spock meanwhile was the half human, half Vulcan Science Officer of the Starship Enterprise. He and Captain Kirk had one of the most enduring friendships in all of fiction, with the entire slash fiction subgenre having grown out of it.

Which is better however? Well this time its Star Trek. I love the Brig, but Spock takes the lead here as he is just as iconic a character as Captain Kirk himself. Everyone knows who Spock is, everyone knows his ears, his cold logical nature and the live long and prosper sign.

Also I feel that Spock had quite a large impact on television in that not only was he one of the first examples of a supporting character ending up being arguably the most popular with audiences, but he also kind of established the trend in sci fi and fantasy series of there being a non human member of the team, who is the odd man out, but in some ways the most useful.

Whilst the Brig will always be a hero to Doctor Who fans, Spock is one of the most important characters in the history of science fiction.

Winner

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3/ Unrequited love interest

Martha Jones

Nurse Christine Chapel

This one wasn’t as hard as the other two as for me Martha Jones beats Nurse Chapel easily. I do like Nurse Chapel, but I’m sorry no way can she top Martha. Both Chapel and Martha had the rather bad luck to fall in love with cold, unfeeling aliens (well the Doctor was more just unfeeling towards her) however Martha I think had more to her character than just the unrequited love interest. She saved the entire earth from the Master in the season finale also she eventually got over her crush on the Doctor and came back in Doctor Who series 4 and Torchwood series 2 as a truly strong and independent character. Chapel however never really got over Spock, and though she did help to save the day a few times it was never to the same extent as Martha Jones so Who definitely wins this round.

Winner

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4/ Less annoying boy genius

Adric

Wesley Crusher

Classic Who and The Next Generation both had this type of character, the smug boy genius who thinks he is better than the main hero and not surprisingly is despised by the majority of fans as a result.

Well of the two of them I’m going to say Adric was less annoying. I think people tend to be a bit too hard on Adric. I always thought he was quite interesting as he was one of the most tragic characters in the history of Doctor Who. He never fits in anywhere, even among the Doctor and his companions (with the Doctor often treating him as a bumbling oaf at best.)

The only person who ever truly cares for him, is his brother who is killed horribly. Finally however when it looks as though the Doctor is beginning to respect him and he might just have found acceptance, he is killed by the Cybermen.

Wesley Crusher meanwhile felt like Gene Roddenberry simply living out his fantasies through this character who was clearly based on a young version of him, Eugene Wesley Roddenberry.

Also Wesley Crusher took over the show and actually did undermine Captain Picard, whilst Adric’s arrogance was often used against him. Indeed it causes his death as he stays behind on the Freighter because he thinks he can save humanity (when ironically if he had succeeded then he would have wiped the human race from history.)

With Wesley however again it simply felt like the writers just wanted him to be right all the time and didn’t care that he came across as an obnoxious, arrogant know it all.

Also finally Adrics death is far more powerful than any scene with Wesley, so Adric takes this easily.

2017 Edit Update

Not that it matters as Adric had already won this, but still Wesley slips even further down in my estimation since Will Wheaton was revealed as a self loathing fanboy, Anita Sarkeesian brown nosing white knight, SJW fuckwit.

Of course normally its best not to associate an actor with the character they played, but since I never liked Wesley anyway, then this is just more reason to be team Adric in this debate.

Winner

By miles and miles.

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5/ Best Archenemy

Khan and the Master are the two most iconic individual villains in the Doctor Who and Star Trek franchises and both are quite similar characters in a number of ways.

The Master is a megalomainiac who wants to gain power over the cosmos. He believes that when he is in charge things will be better. Khan similarly was determined to rule the world and later the Federation as he believed that he would in his own words bring order.

Of course at the same time whilst both villains have such grand ambitions for humanity, ironically they end up more obsessed with a petty vendetta against one man, the Doctor and Captain Kirk.

Khan despises Kirk because he left him on Cita Alpha 5, whilst the Master though respecting him at first comes to loathe the Doctor for foiling him so many times.

The Master and Khan’s hatred for their mortal enemies causes them to actively sabotage their plans for conquest in some instances. In Wrath of Khan, Khan pursues Kirk through the Mutara Nebula which will compromise his ship, when he could have just left with the Genesis Device and had everything he wanted. In The Deadly Assassin meanwhile the Master uses the Doctor as part of his plan to steal the eye of harmony’s power, when he could have used any random time lord, rather than the Doctor who would be smart enough to figure out what is going on.

Even when near death and in the most unimaginable agony, Khan and the Masters hatred of the Doctor and Captain Kirk drives them on more than anything else. 

The Master and Khan also are both master manipulators. Almost ever Master story from Terror of the Autons to Last of the Time Lords will show the villain twist the mind of someone until they become his loyal servant through any means necessary.

Khan meanwhile is shown to similarly manipulate Lt Maria McGivers into helping him take over the Enterprise in Space Seed (though unlike the Masters female cohorts such as Lucy Saxon, Khan at least did genuinely love McGivers. In fact its her death which he blames on Kirk that motivates him more than anything else in Wrath of Khan.)

Finally both villains are also shown to use mind control on their victims too. The Master has always been hypnotic in some form or another. Whether that’s Delgado’s hypnotic chant of “YOU WILL OBEY ME!” or Eric Roberts spit that takes people over, or John Simm using the Archangel network.

Khan meanwhile memorably sticks horrible worm like creatures in Checkov and Terrell’s ears which allows him to control them.

Khan and the Master were also more of a match for the Doctor and Kirk too. The Master was a time lord like the Doctor and has his own Tardis, whilst Khan was actually superior to Kirk in a number of ways. As a result both Kirk and the Doctor are often pushed to their limits and might even be forced to fight dirty in order to take down The Master and Khan.

Though normally more cerebral heroes who prefer to find a peaceful solution, the Doctor and Captain Kirk are still prepared to kick a guy into a bottomless pit and smash a guy’s head in with a pipe if need be.

Whilst both the Master and Khan are excellent villains I am going to give this one to Star Trek.

Khan is a superior villain in pretty much every way for me.

To start with his backstory is more fleshed out. A problem with the Master is that you can’t really explore his backstory, as his whole thing (much like the Doctor) is that he is mysterious. Unfortunately this means that sometimes the Master can become quite a flat character.

Khan’s backstory in the Eugenics Wars was fascinating. It helped to flesh out the mythology of Star Trek itself and has served as the basis for some great spin off material. Also Khan I feel was written in a more 3 dimensional way. As wicked as he was you could actually have some sympathy for him. His grievance against Kirk is genuine, as Kirk ultimately did just dump him on a planet and then not bother with him for 20 years. If Kirk had just checked once then all of the horrors of Wrath of Khan could have been avoided.

With the Master meanwhile as much as I like him he could feel like a Saturday Morning cartoon villain some times.

 

Compare their dialogue to see what I mean.

DOCTOR: The Master’s consumed with hatred. It’s his one great weakness.
MASTER: Ha. Weakness, Doctor? Hate is strength.
DOCTOR: Not in your case. You’d delay an execution to pull the wings off a fly.
MASTER: This time, Doctor, the execution will not be delayed.. I have suffered long enough from your stupid, stubborn interference in my designs. Now we are coming to the end of our conflict, Doctor.
(Spandrell moves forward and the Master shoots him.)
DOCTOR: Why have you brought me here?
MASTER: As a scapegoat for the killing of the President. Who else but you, Doctor? So despicably good, so insufferably compassionate. I wanted you to die in ignominious shame and disgrace.
(The Doctor steps forward and gets shot.)
MASTER: Now, do as I say, Coordinator, or you’ll get the same.
(Engin strips the late President of the Y shaped sash and gives it to the Master.
MASTER: They’re not dead. Stunned. They’ll live long enough to see the end of this accursed planet, and for the Doctor to taste the full bitterness of his defeat!

KIRK: Khan, you dirty bloodsucker!! You’re going to have to do your own dirty work now! Do you hear me?! Do you?!
(Khan reacts to Kirk’s voice with shock. He clutches the communicator.)
KHAN: Kirk! Kirk, you’re still alive – my old friend
KIRK: Still ‘old friend.’ You’ve managed kill just about everyone else. But like a poor marksman, you keep missing the target.
KHAN: (ironic) Perhaps I no longer need to try.
KIRK: (desperate) Khan, Khan, you’ve got Genesis, but you don’t have me! you were going to kill me, Khan! You’re going to have to come down here! You’re going to have to
come down here!
KHAN: I’ve done far worse than kill you. I’ve hurt you. And I wish to go on hurting you. I shall leave you, as you left me, as you left her. Marooned for all eternity in the center of a dead planet. Buried alive!

You can see how of the two of them Khan has more proper motives. He despises Kirk because Kirk caused the death of the woman he loves, and abandoned him on a dying world for years, where as the Master it seems hates the Doctor because he’s a little goody two shoes?

Also its not like I’ve chosen a crap Master story and compared it with Wrath of Khan. That scene is from The Deadly Assassin, one of the all time greatest Master stories, written by the most popular Doctor Who writer Robert Holmes.

Also everything Khan did made sense. With the Master at times they’d have him just do evil things because he’s evil! Or they’d have him do gimmicky things like dress up in disguise for absolutely no reason whatsoever.

Also Khan was wisely only used sparingly. He appears just twice in the original Star Trek canon. The Master meanwhile was horribly overused throughout much of Classic Who. As a result of this the Master’s effectiveness as a villain was not only greatly diluted, but he has also been in some absolutely horrendous stories.

Take a look at this scene from one of his latest appearances, The Last of the Time Lords. Here the Master has taken over the earth and aged the Doctor (who for some reason has shrunk?) Whilst the Doctors faithful companion Martha Jones has travelled the entire world for a year and, well see for yourself.

Easily one of the worst scenes in the entire history of either Doctor Who or Star Trek. This scene alone practically puts Khan ahead of the Master. Even the Cumberbatch version of Khan was never in anything as shit as that!

Still even when you look at the Masters best stories like The Deadly Assassin and Survival, they still in my opinion can’t match Wrath of Khan, and at the very least they don’t exceed Space Seed either.

Star Trek definitely takes this.

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6/ Alien Invaders

The Daleks

The Klingons

This is one that I don’t think many people including even Trekkies would disagree with me on. The Daleks are way better than the Klingons. Both are great villains and both served as great allegories for different things. In the Klingons case the Soviet Union, in the Daleks the Nazi’s however ultimately I think the Daleks still have to stand as the better alien invaders.

To start with they are more genuinely alien. The Klingons in the original series look liked us and in later series they still looked by and large like us except they now had bumpy foreheads. The Daleks however looked totally alien. Okay I can understand that to some people the Daleks design might look a bit silly, but even then no one can deny that their design does not look even remotely human.

It has no legs, no arms, no face, nothing we can recognise about it. Also in terms of behaviour the Daleks were more alien than the Klingons too. The Klingons behaved in a very human way. They had their own culture, their own code of honour, their own literature, even their own booze. The Daleks however had nothing we could relate too. They don’t have any culture, there are no Dalek laws, no Dalek customs, no Dalek literature, no Dalek art, no Dalek poetry, no Dalek code of honour, no Dalek society nothing.

There are no Daleks that behave differently, no good guy Daleks, no extra fanatical Daleks, no Daleks that seek to gain power for themselves. All the Daleks behave exactly the same from the lowliest drone to the emperor.  However they are not merely robots, they are flesh and blood creatures and they are also emotional creatures too. They are not driven by logic, but by irrational fear and hatred of other life forms.

Thus they aren’t really like anything we can relate too. They obviously aren’t like us, but they also don’t resemble any kind of animal, and they aren’t simply robots either.

I don’t really think there are any other aliens you can say that about. The Predator for instance is still very human, not just in terms of how it looks, but its whole warrior culture, whilst the Xenomorph aside from still having some human features like arms, legs and a mouth, is basically just like a big overgrown animal.

The Daleks however to ironically use a Star Trek quote are genuinely “life but not as we know it”.

I also feel that the Daleks simply have more charisma and screen presence than the Klingons. Their, rasping, screeching voice alone, never mind their design is spectacular and instantly imitable, which probably accounts for a large part of their popularity.

Another way you can tell the Daleks have the greater presence is that they take centre stage whenever they appear.

In all of their appearances in Classic Who they are the main villains and the focus is entirely on them except for one story “Frontier in Space”, though even here they are still the main villains we just don’t find out until the end. In the New Who they have been the main focus in all but two stories they appeared in .

The Klingons however in their appearances in the original series were not always the main villains or focus of the stories. In Errand of Mercy the main focus I feel is on the aliens the Klingons are persecuting, in Fridays child  again I feel the main focus is on the aliens. In The Trouble with Tribbles the main focus is on the Tribles. The Klingons could be replaced by any alien in that story. In Day of the Dove the main villain is the alien that is pitting the Klingons and the humans against one another.

The Daleks when compared with the Klingons are just simply too big a presence to be pushed to the side.

Finally the Daleks I feel have made a much larger impact on popular culture than the Klingons have. The Klingons are obviously iconic, but not to the same extent as the Daleks. The Daleks are recognised all around the world. They have popped up in many American television series including “The Simpsons”, “South Park”, “The Big Bang Theory” and also the movie “Looney Tunes Back in Action”.

In the United Kingdom however the Daleks are almost a way of life. Back in the 1960’s the Daleks were ever bit as popular as the Beatles. Britain was gripped in “Dalekmania”, there were Dalek toys, soaps, posters, stage plays and even films based on the monsters.

In the decades since they have still remained popular. Most of the time whenever they return they are on the front of the radio times. The word Dalek even made its way into the dictionary at one point.

The Klingons have never enjoyed that level of fame at any point in Star Treks long history. It could be argued that the Daleks were responsible for Doctor Who’s initial success. The show really took off after they appeared. The Klingons meanwhile I feel were only popular because they were in Star Trek. They piggy backed on the shows popularity, where as with the Daleks if anything back in the 60’s it was the other way around and Doctor Who piggy backed on the Daleks huge popularity to become a monster hit.

Winner

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Here are some examples of why the Daleks are way more badass than the Klingons just to further ram the point home.

and the final proof when did you last see a Klingon with John fucking Lennon?

7/ Cyborg Invaders

Cybermen

The Borg

This is a bit of tricky one. The Cybermen and the Borg are a very similar concept and indeed many fans of both series have commented on this over the years. Both are mechanical creatures who seek to convert all organic life forms across the universe into members of their own kind.

Its very hard to say which was the better take on the idea. On the one hand when they Cybermen were scary in stories like “Tomb of the Cybermen” and “The Invasion” they were far more terrifying than the Borg ever were. However over the years the Cybermen I think have been a lot more mistreated than the Borg. They have had their asses kicked by just four Daleks, wiped out by a teenager with a sling shot and beaten up by James Cordens baby.

Cy-Derp Men

Ultimately however even with all of these humiliating defeats I am still going to have to go with the Cybermen. They still scare me more for a number of reasons.

The thing about the Cybermen is I feel that a lone Cyberman is scary. If you are cornered by a Cyberman then there is really nothing you can do. You can’t reason with it and you certainly can’t fight it off either. You’ll break you fist if you just try and punch it!

Also Cyber conversion is far more terrifying. The thing about the Cybermen is when they convert you, everything about you goes. You become a totally faceless, emotionless drone.

With the Borg not only can the process be reversed (as seen with Captain Picard who briefly became Locutos), but you can still see traces of the humans they once were in there.

Take a look at this Cyber leader in comparison.

For all you know in life he could have actually been a she. A big, statuesque Lucy Lawless type beauty, or a shy, retiring, cute, nerdy girl with thick glasses like Bernadette from The Big Bang Theory. Or maybe he was a big burly guy, or a frail 86 year old who walked with a stick? We don’t know cause everything this person was has been replaced with a cold lifeless machine.

Cyber conversion is also a far gorier, more drawn out, and painful process than becoming a Borg too.

Thus to me the Cybermen were far more frightening, though again I can see how the Borg are superior in a number of ways as they were never undermined in quite the same way. Ultimately however I am still going to go with the Cybermen here.

Winner

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8/ Member of a villainous race who became a good guy

Madame Vastra

Worf

Both Trek and Who have had these types of characters. Vastra a member of the Silurians major enemies from Classic Who and Worf a member of the Klingons major enemies from the original Star Trek series who both become proud warrior allies of the main heroes.

Of the two I have to say that Worf is a much better character. As a lead of two long running series its obvious that he is going to be more well developed than Vastra who has only been in a few episodes so far. Also whilst I do like Vastra at times I do feel that she and her sidekick Strax can feel a bit like novelty characters. Worf on the other hand never did, he was always a fully fleshed out member of the crew.

Winner

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9/ Best Leader Of Alien Invaders

Davros

Borg Queen 

Davros and the Borg Queen though different characters fulfil a similar role to each other.

They are both not only the commanders of vast interstellar empires, but they also were designed to give the leading characters (The Doctor, Captain Picard and later Captain Janeway) a more human adversary to play off of.

The Daleks and the Borg are great villains, but understandably a lot of the actors playing the Doctor and Patrick Stewart found them quite limiting to play off of, as neither have any individual personalities. They are all mindless drones who mostly just shout their catchphrases “YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED” or “YOU WILL BE EXTERMINATED!”.

Davros and The Borg Queen both of whom had individual personalities could finally give the leads an adversary they could have a proper confrontation with rather than just simply fight.

You can see how Davros and The Borg Queen gave the Doctor and Picard enemies that they could actually argue with, exchange ideas with and again do more than just simply shoot at, or run away from.

Now whilst the Borg Queen was a very good villain I think that Davros really has to take this.

The Borg Queen was really just another variant of leader. She had more personality sure, but really she’s just kind a kind of glorified Supreme Dalek, or Cyber Leader.

Davros however created the Daleks and it was fascinating the way we could see how Davros had essentially created these monsters in his own image. Also the relationship Davros had with the Daleks was more complex too.

The Daleks on the one hand despised Davros as much as the Doctor as he is a non Dalek and therefore the enemy. However they also do still have some form of twisted affection for him.

Davros didn’t just simply give the Daleks life. He poured all of his own twisted beliefs into the Daleks and gave them their purpose to conquer all other life forms in the universe.

The monsters know that they would literally be nothing without him so they can never quite bring themselves to kill him. There are so many opportunities where they could have finished him for good yet they almost never take it. In Revelation of the Daleks for instance they decide to take him back to Skaro to stand trial for his crimes against them rather than just simply zap him there and then.

Similarly in Genesis of the Daleks though they do shoot him, they don’t stick around to finish the job and Davros ultimately survives. Whilst some might argue that the Daleks simply didn’t know that his life support machine could keep him alive,  in the next story Destiny of the Daleks it is revealed that the Daleks knew that he had survived as ultimately they are searching for him which they wouldn’t do if they thought that he was dead.

Again why would they leave a lesser life form alive for so many centuries just to gather cobwebs? Simple because they couldn’t quite bring themselves to murder Davros as in a twisted way, he’s the closest thing the Daleks have to a father.

The Borg Queen’s relationship with her drones was ultimately not as interesting as at the end of the day they were just her servants, so Davros is ultimately a more interesting take on the idea of giving a race drones a leader with an individual personality.

Winner

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10/ Best Story of Original Series Run

Genesis of the Daleks

Balance of Terror

Two television classics. Both of these stories instantly disprove the myth that Star Trek and Doctor Who are silly, childish series.

There’s really nothing I can fault about either story. The cast are all superb. William Shatner and Tom Baker are at their absolute best here, and the actors playing the main villains Mark Lenard as the Romulan commander (who later landed the role of Spock’s father) and Michael Wisher as Davros are among the best guest stars either show ever had. They both bring a tremendous amount of gravitas and menace to the villains.

Both stories whilst exciting on the surface, also have very deep meanings behind them. Genesis shows us how evil men like Davros can rise to power and even reshape an entire society in their own twisted image not just through their own cunning, but through the idiocy and inaction of those around them. The Kaleds, Davros’ own people whom he later wipes out still foolishly think they can reason with him,  whilst the Thals who spend more time fighting the Kaleds and stupidly fall for Davros’ lies simply because its what they want to hear.

Balance of Terror meanwhile shows us how ironically the soldiers who fight in wars are not always actually enemies. They are often people who are being forced to fight someone else’s battle and were it not for the great powers who are forcing millions of young men to slaughter each other they might have even been friends.

I suppose in a way you can view Genesis of the Daleks as being World War 2, as we have a twisted, evil, xenophobic maniac who creates a new order of xenophobic maniacs to wage war against anyone who doesn’t fit his idea of the perfect being. Balance of Terror meanwhile is World War 1 in that it involves two great armies whose men don’t even want to fight and unlike the Nazis or the Daleks have no real hatred towards one another, but have to fight anyway in what is ultimately a pointless conflict.

Now as for which of these two stories is better, well that’s very hard to choose. Still I’m going to go with Genesis here only because Genesis is slightly more interesting for me the way it takes us into the full history of Skaro. Skaro is a truly nightmarish world. Its surface has been destroyed by a thousand year conflict, the most hideous mutants roam the wastelands and the two intelligent life forms, the Thals and the Kaleds are both evil.

Its not hard to see how the most evil monsters in the entire universe could emerge from such a place.

Winner

Only marginally

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11/ Best Story of the Sequel Series

Day of the Doctor

The Chain of Command

I’m giving this to Star Trek. Doctor Who’s 50th anniversary story did its job of not only celebrating the history of Doctor Who, but also moving the series forward by having the Doctors save Gallifrey. I’m really looking forward to seeing where Steven Moffat takes the search for Galifrey story arc.

However I feel that Chain of Command is still the better story for a number of reasons. First of all its easier to watch. Day of the Doctor really only makes sense to a life long Doctor Who fan. To be fair that is kind of the point of an anniversary story, but still I can’t imagine even a casual fan having any time for it.

The Chain of Command meanwhile I think would hold up to even a non Star Trek fan as its a fantastic story all around. Its a brilliant character piece as we see the sadistic Gul Madred slowly try and break Picard’s will. Gul is definitely one of the shows most effective villains. David Warner who plays him is amazing in the role, and gives the villain an eerie charm.

My favourite moment is definitely the final confrontation between the two when Maldred has been ordered to release Picard but tries one last time to break his enemy.

Though its true the story obviously borrows from George Orwell’s classic novel 1984, it does still manage to do something new with it. Definitely one of Patrick Stewarts best performances, there is really nothing wrong with this story which sadly I cannot say about Day of the Doctor

Though I do like Day of the Doctor, its true that the Zygon story with Queen Elizabeth is silly and takes up far too much of the episode.

Winner

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12/ Best Ancient Astronaut story

Pyramids of Mars

Who Mourns For Adonais

Both Star Trek and Doctor Who did stories where it was revealed that the gods were aliens. “Who Mourns for Adonas” and “Pyramids of Mars”. Both stories I think demonstrate the differences between Who and Trek better than anything else. The Star Trek take on this story is a very romantic, philosophical story where the villain is still a very human character for better or for worse. The Doctor Who take on this story meanwhile is a very dark, frightening story where the main villain is a total out and out monster. Both stories are all time classics and it isn’t really fair to compare them as even though they touch on the same subject they try something completely different with them and arguably succeed just as much at what they set out to do. However still since we are comparing them both here I would have to again go with Doctor Who. Sutekh the destroyer scared the shit out of me so much growing up. I defy anyone to find a better villains voice than Gabriel Woof the actor who plays him.

Winner

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13/ Best Alternate Universe Story

Inferno

Mirror Mirror

Alternate universes are another subject that Trek and Who have touched on many times in their history, but definitely the most famous example from each would be “Mirror Mirror” from Trek and “Inferno” from Doctor Who.

I must admit at first I thought I would have gone for the Who story as Inferno has always been a favourite of mine, but ultimately Trek is the winner here. “Mirror Mirror” is really the daddy of all alternate universe stories, its where all of the others including Inferno come from, so it really deserves to win. Both stories are classics though and both offer us an interesting insight into the characters of the Brigadier and Spock.

Their evil selves represent what they could become if they were raised in a different environment. Their evil counterparts are the same people underneath. The Brigade leader is just as devoted to the military as the regular Brig is, whilst the bearded Spock relies on logic just like our version, but because both are now working for a corrupt regime they are the villains,. Still Star Trek wins as Doctor Who was really following Star Trek’s lead.

Winner

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14/ Best movie

Daleks Invasion Earth 2150AD

Star Trek 2 The Wrath of Khan

This isn’t really a fair fight is it? The two Cushing movies are great, cheesy, 60’s fun, but Wrath of Khan is one of the greatest films ever made simple as that.

Winner

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15/ Worst story

Love and Monsters

The Omega Glory

Much like in deciding who was better Adric or Wesley Crusher here we will determine who is the winner by looking at which is the less awful out of the two worst episodes. This time its Star Trek that’s the winner. The Omega Glory is terrible, dated, crap. I cringe at that moment when the American flag is brought out. However even that is still better than “Love and Monsters” with its abzorbing monsters, lame jokes about Doctor Who fandom, soap opera drivel and blow job or rim job jokes.

Winner

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16/ Best story where a main character dies

Adric/ Earthshock

Tasha Yar/ Skin of Evil

Doctor Who wins this as Adrics death at the hands of the Cybermen was far more moving, unexpected and quite bleak too as Adric dies alone, scared and thinking that he failed to save billions of innocent people. Also the Cybermen are a better villain than Armus to kill off a main character.

Winner

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17/ Best story where a historical figure fights a monster

Vincent and the Doctor

The Savage Curtain

Doctor Who takes this easy. Vincent and the Doctor is a truly moving and poignant piece of television. It gives us one of the most mature and sensitive depictions of someone suffering from mental illness I have ever seen on tv.

Its not afraid to show how difficult it can be dealing with someone with severe mental health problems, and how sometimes a persons issues can be too great for any help. It also explores the ignorance some people can have of depression too, with Vincent Van Gogh being show to be treated as a freak by those around him.

Still at the same time it also shows how every little bit of support is important regardless of whatever happens. Even though the Doctor and Amy ultimately fail to help Van Gogh overcome his problems, the Doctor still feels that it was worth it as they still made him happy for a short period of time at least.

Winner

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18/ Best crossover episode

The Three Doctors

Trials and Tribble ations

Star Trek wins this time. I love the Three Doctors, but the Star Trek episode is better as it actually takes us back into the original series. Its not just simply a case of the original character comes back, here we actually do get to see the two very different worlds collide and therefore I feel its a lot more fun and unusual.

Winner

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19/ Best Cosmic Love Story

The Pandorica Opens/ The Big Bang

City On The Edge of Forever

As good a love story as Rory waiting outside a box for 10000 years for Amy is I don’t think any of us can really forget Captain Kirk and Joan Collins tragic love story. Though “City on the Edge of Forever” may seem unoriginal now that’s only because it has been copied billions of times since. Indeed its the precursor to many Doctor Who episodes such as the Waters of Mars which see the Time Lord become torn on whether to save one good person and change history in catastrophic ways, or sacrifice an innocent persons life for the greater good.

Winner

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20/ Best story with an evil version of the Hero

Amy’s Choice

The Enemy Within

“Amy’s Choice” is a great episode and the Dream Lord is a very memorable character. However Star Trek has to take the lead here as its story is I feel much more bold and daring. It has its evil version of the hero Kirk actually try and rape somebody. To have your main character, even just an evil version of them try and do something like that is incredibly brave and shocking and an example of how Trek was willing to push the boundaries too.

Winner

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21/ Best theme

Doctor Who wins this one for me as there have been several Star Trek themes over the years where as Doctor Who has kept the one theme, oh of course there are different arrangements of it sure, but its basically the same theme. The best Star Trek theme for me would be the one that was used in the film series and the Next Generation. Even it however is not quite as brilliantly off beat and surreal as Doctor Who’s.

Winner

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22/ Best Love Story Where Someone Is Trapped In Another Place Away From Their One True Love Forever

Doomsday

All Our Yesterdays

A very specific idea, but again an example of how Doctor Who and Star Trek often explored similar concepts to each other.

In the Doctor Who story Doomsday the Doctors greatest enemies, the Daleks and the Cybermen invade the earth. The Doctor defeats them by pulling both armies into the void, the nothingness between universes (there are shades of another classic Star Trek episode The Alternative Factor here, where the two versions of Lazarus are trapped in the nothingness between universes, fighting each other forever.)

Unfortunately however Rose, the woman the Doctor loves, ends up trapped in another universe as a result, and there is seemingly no way the Doctor can find her again.  At the end of the episode however the Time Lord is able to send a projection of himself through one tiny little crack left between the universes. Sadly before he can tell Rose he loves her he is cut off, leaving both the Doctor and Rose heartbroken.

In All Our Yesterdays, Kirk and McCoy end up trapped back in the past of an alien world that is about to be consumed by its own sun, after accidentally falling through a portal created by a time machine. The two land in a barren ice age, where there is no intelligent life except for one woman named Zarabeth.

Zarabeth reveals that she was sent back here as punishment after taking part in a failed rebellion. If she ever leaves this time, then she will die. She lies that after having travelled through time, Spock and McCoy can’t travel forward back the way or else they will die too.

Zarabeth and Spock soon fall in love, but McCoy soon discovers her deception. Furthermore, Kirk back in the present discovers that as they were not prepared, Spock and McCoy will die if they don’t get back to the future and Spock is forced to leave Zarabeth behind in the past where she will remain alone for the rest of her life.

As you can see both stories explore the idea of two lovers being separated by entire worlds. Both stories even feature the lovers standing on either side of a wall with it only looking like its the wall separating them, when it is in fact two entire realities.

Now both stories are classics, but I am going to give this to Star Trek. I have never liked romance stories with the Doctor. I just don’t think it works with the character. The Doctor really is most effective as the Holmesian, professorial, crazy old uncle type of figure.

Also I think that All Our Yesterday’s is a far more moving and tragic story all around too. Whilst its sad that Rose ends up separated from the Doctor, she does still live a brilliant life in that other universe. Indeed arguably better than the one she would have had with the Doctor.

She lives in a mansion with her whole family (including an alternate version of her dad who died in her universe) and she has a job that she love where she hunts monsters and saves the world.

Zarabeth on the other hand lives in a miserable little dark cave, in a frozen wasteland, with only raw bits of meat for company. Its a miserable existence and there is nothing the main characters can do to save her from it. The final shot where she walks away crying as Spock is forced to leave her is absolutely heartbreaking.

It also doesn’t help that Russell T Davies would later go on to undo the ending of Doomsday two years later by not only having Rose return to our universe and reunite with the Doctor, but also later gain her own Doctor clone too.

Winner

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23/ Best All Powerful Organisation That Forbids Its Members To Interfere

Time Lords

United Federation of Planets

The Federation and the Time Lords are similar in some respects.

The Time Lords are the Doctors people and the most advanced race in the universe. After abusing their power for centuries, the Time Lords vowed to never interfere in the affairs of other planets ever again.

The Doctor however obviously broke this law many times. Originally he simply wanted to explore the universe as he was bored back on Gallifrey, but of course he ended up interfering in the affairs of other planets.

The Federation meanwhile represents the unification of several planets including the Earth and Vulcan. Just like the Time Lords they are forbidden to interfere in the affairs of other life forms. This law is known as the Prime Directive.

As I have been over both Kirk and the Doctor frequently get into trouble with the higher ups in the Federation and the High Council of the Time Lords.

Whilst I liked the Time Lords I do think that the Federation were better. The Time Lords were very inconsistent. They went from being all powerful, benevolent gods, to corrupt, petty bureaucrats with primitive technology, to evil, vengeful monsters wanting to destroy all of creation. The Doctors attitude towards them changed too, from wanting desperately to get back to them in the Hartnell era, to being scared of being caught by them in Troughton’s time, to being annoyed with them, but respecting them in Pertwee’s time, to looking down on them in Tom’s time, to wanting to destroy them in the Tennant era, to finally doing all he could to save them in the 50th.

Also the Time Lords were best used fleetingly. The more we saw of them in stories like Trial of a Time Lord, the less interesting they became.

Winner

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24/ Best All Powerful God Like Villain

Black Guardian

Q

These two creatures power and very nature borders on the supernatural. They are the closest thing the Star Trek and the Doctor Who universes have to Gods.

Now I am going to go with Doctor Who here. The Black Guardian was a brilliant villain. He was only used fleetingly and whenever he did appear he was genuinely menacing.

Q meanwhile to start with was horribly over used. Also much like Wesley Crusher at times he did feel like a bit of a creators pet. Whilst I don’t dislike the character quite as much as some other fans, ultimately I think the Black Guardian was the far more sinister take on the idea.

Winner

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25/ Best Ship

Tardis

USS Enterprise

Doctor Who takes this. I do like the Enterprise, it obviously has a spectacular design and is rightfully recognised around the world just as much as the Tardis.

However the Tardis is better in a number of ways for me. First of all its alive, and therefore can never be replaced, unlike the Enterprise which has been replaced many times.

Also the Tardis can travel to anywhere in the universe, and its virtually indestructable. Also the Tardis I feel is more unique the way its bigger on the inside than the outside too. It blends a classic sci fi idea like time travel, with surrealist ideas.

You can compare the Enterprise to a dozen other spaceships (though granted that’s only because most of them have copied the Enterprise.) Still the Tardis truly is one of a kind.

Winner

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26/ Best Reptile People

Silurians

Voth

Two very similar races. The Silurians first appeared in the 1970 story Doctor Who and the Silurians. They were a highly advanced race of reptile men who lived during the time of the Dinosaurs. When they discovered however that an asteroid was destined to collide with their planet, they sealed themselves below ground in hibernation chambers where they would remain for 65 million years in suspended animation, until the humans accidentally awaken them.

The Silurians would then attempt to wipe humanity out, though later stories would show some Silurians live in peace with humanity. The recurring character of Vastra for instance who not only becomes an ally of the Doctor and protects humanity from various other threats, but she later ends up marrying a human woman named Jenny.

The Voth meanwhile evolved on the earth during the time of the Dinosaurs, and like the Silurians built a highly advanced society. They left the planet when they discovered it was going to be hit by an asteroid and travelled to the farthest reaches of space, eventually settling in the Delta Quadrant. The Voth would come to believe that they originated in the Delta Quadrant but would later discover their true origins.

Much like with the Borg and the Cybermen, many fans of both series have commented on the similarities between the Voth and the Silurians.

As for which is better, well that’s very hard to say as there is so little differences between them? Really I think the only way to decide is by looking at the quality of the stories they were in. Personally I think that the Silurians first appearance, Doctor Who and the Silurians was better than any Voth episode. Though at the same time Warriors of the Deep another Silurian story is one of the worst stories in either Doctor Who or Star Trek.

Still as I do love the Silurians first story then I’ll go with Doctor Who this time. I suppose though a more accurate assessment would be the Voth never reached the heights of the Silurians, but they never plumbed the depths of their worst stories either.

Winner

Doctor Who 14 Star Trek 12

27/ Best Electronic Sidekick

K9

The Doctor

Star Trek wins this one. K9, the Doctors pet robot dog is to be fair far more iconic than the hologram, the Doctor from Star Trek Voyager.

Still that doesn’t mean that he isn’t still a crappy, gimmicky, silly character who really should never have been introduced in the first place.

The Doctor meanwhile was a great character all around. In fact I’d say he was my favourite from Voyager and Robert Picardo was brilliant in the role.

Winner 

Doctor Who 14 Star Trek 13

28/ Best Story Where Time Is Changed And Humanity Is Fucked

Day of the Daleks

Yesterday’s Enterprise

Now this is a very difficult one to choose as both stories are among the best of either Doctor Who or Star Trek.

Both involve a change in history creating a timeline where humanity is at war with, or even conquered by the main villains of the franchise, the Klingons and the Daleks.

Now Day of the Daleks is a brilliant time travel story. It sees a group of humans from a Dalek ruled future travel back to the 20th century to kill the man they believe is responsible for their terrible future, Sir Reginald Styles.

Earth is on the brink of a third world war in the 1970’s, and Styles has gathered together all of the world leaders to try and reach a peaceful solution. Unfortunately however it turns out that Styles is a maniac and after gathering all of the world leaders together he kills them all and himself in an explosion.

World War 3 begins and devastates the earth allowing it to be easily conquered by the Daleks. The Doctor discovers however in a brilliant twist that it was actually one of the rebels who caused the war. In a last ditch attempt to kill Styles the rebel blew himself up, being unaware that the other delegates where in the house at the time.

In Yesterday’s Enterprise the timeline is changed thanks to the presence of USS Enterprise C which falls through a time rift. Originally Enterprise C was destroyed whilst defending a Klingon outpost from an attack by the Romulans. This action helped to establish an alliance between the Klingons and the Federation (among other things.)

Sadly however now that that never happened the Federation and the Klingons are at war with each other and the Enterprise D’s crew must do all they can to get the Enterprise C back through the anomaly even though it will mean the death of the entire crew.

Both stories represent among the best time travel adventures in either show, but which is better? Well I honestly can’t choose. On the one hand Day of the Daleks I think uses the concept of time being changed in a more interesting way. Its a brilliant twist that the people who tried to make their future better ended up creating the nightmare they live in instead.

Yesterday’s Enterprise’s time paradox is more of a straight forward problem, just someone falling through time. However on the other hand, Yesterday’s Enterprise explores the effects that the change has on the main characters better.

One of the characters Tasha Yar was killed in the original timeline, and thus has to face the dilemma of either staying in a horrible timeline or dying a pointless death in the original better timeline. Yesterday’s Enterprise is also somewhat bolder in the way it shows main characters like Riker be butchered on screen by the Klingons.

Ultimately for the first time I am going to have to call it a draw.

Doctor Who 14 Star Trek 13

29/ Best Story Where Main Character Is Consumed With Hatred For Hostile Alien Race

Dalek

First Contact

In these two stories the Doctor and Captain Picard are so consumed with hatred for the Daleks and the Borg that they begin to lose their heads.

Again its hard to choose which is better. I’d say as stories they are just as well acted and written as one another. Dalek is a more low key story sure, but for what it sets out to do then its just as good.

However I think that Dalek tackles the main heroes hatred of his mortal enemies in a more effective way. I think in First Contact they try and point out the comparisons with Captain Ahab a bit too much. They had already done the Moby Dick in space thing with Wrath of Khan and it really felt like they were just retreading old ground here.

These scenes I think demonstrate why the Daleks and the Borg are so popular with viewers. They really get under the main heroes skin like no other villain.

Doctor Who 15 Star Trek 13

30/ Best Story Where Brains In Jars Take Over A Society

The Keys of Marinus

The Gamesters of Triskelion

Both of these adventures have the same basic core premise. They revolve around a race who has evolved beyond the need for bodies as their brains are so well developed they can control others with their minds.

They both enslave the other humanoid life forms on the planet around them and torment them for their own amusement.

I am going with Star Trek here. The Gamesters of Triskelion is really the quintessential 60’s cheesy Star Trek episode. Its certainly not the best one, but its still tremendous fun. So much of what we think of when we think of Star Trek comes from this episode such as Kirk teaching an alien woman how to love, or the famous fighting music

Its hard to believe that in 26 years they never gave the Doctor great fighting music.

Winner

Doctor Who 15 Star Trek 14

Final score Doctor Who 15 Star Trek 14

Conclusion 

The Third Doctor fanboying over Captain Kirk.

Doctor Who is better in this bloggers opinion. It wins barely by a 15/14. I am surprised in a way as I always preferred the Beatles to the Rolling Stones, but to be fair I think I have always known in my heart that Who was my favourite. Overall two great shows, and franchises but Doctor Who is just a little bit more special to me. But that’s just my opinion tell me what do you think?

 

5 thoughts on “Doctor Who Vs Star Trek

  1. I am in all honesty I am a Trekky, never seen Dr.Who, don’t want to either. No offense.
    But, (I might sound prejudice because of my prefrance) Star Trek is better, for instance:
    1: Dr. Who is a time traveler dude that tries to save everything. (Thats what I get from talking to Whovians anyway. its spelled that way right?) Star Trek explores, and has more politics you could say. Which makes it more “real life”, in my opinion anyway.
    2: Best villan… Okay, from what I get from Dr. Who, its the Daleks. Best villan in Star Trek… The Borg. End of disscusion! I have a good list of reasons why.
    3: Best characters over all? Since I know nothing of Dr. Who, this is a Star Trek list. Okay in the original series, we have Spock, Scotty, Kirk, Checkoff, Uhura, Mcoy, and Sulu. The best? In my opinon, Spock, and alot of people agree. Now Next Gen has, Riker, Picard, Deanna Troi, Dr. Crusher, Gordi, Q, Wesley, and Data… Do I need to say anything more? Data and Q. Who could choose a favorite between those two? Now for Voyager we’ve got ALOT of people… So I’ll just give the best, 7 of 9, The Doctor, Nelix, and Tuvok… Okay so as not to bore you, I’ll just say this, Q, 7, Doctor, and Nelix are as good as I can come to best characters since its REALLY hard to choose! I honestly love ALL of the Voyager crew, so its not really fair for me to say who is best there… So, almost all of them… Okay for DS9 we’ve got alot of people here to, so the best are, (These are a few of the best) Odo, Bashir, Quark, Rom, and Dax. Again, there are alot of character, these are some of the best.
    Please, for Enterprize, its just Flox, Malcom, and T’pal.
    4: Best character thats… Sort of a villan? Since I know nothing of Dr. Who, this is Star Trek AGAIN! Q, end of discusion.
    5: Worst war? Well, from what I know of Dr. Who… I think its with the Daleks, right? In Star Trek, its with the Jemhidar and/or Diminion in DS9.
    Alright, I’ll shut up now so that I don’t bore you, and remember, this is all MY opinion…
    If you want to talk about Stark Trek vs Doctor Who, my email adress is ToryWolfe@mail.com

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    • All opinions are welcome here. I admit I am a little biased in favour of Doctor Who. I haven’t written anything about Star Trek yet and I really bloody should, but obviously I have written extensively on Doctor Who. Still I hope I was fair to Trek as Who only beats it marginally, which shows how much I respect it at least, as clearly I prefer DW, but even with that, its not like Who massively beats it.

      I’d say that Who has the best villains. The Borg are great characters but they are kind of a mix mash of the Cybermen and the Daleks. Its a well known fact that the creators of Star Trek cited the Cybermen as an influence on the Borg. In an episode of next generation the names of the first 6 actors to play the Doctor appear on a computer screen.

      I think that Who is like Batman, whilst Trek is like Superman, in that Who/Batman have the best villains. Even on a superficial level they’re more colourful, flamboyant, the Superman/Trek villains are boring and flat in comparison apart from one exception Khan/Luthor.

      However I think Superman and Trek have better supporting characters. The Doctor is great and though he does have some great companions by an large they are forgettable compared to the Trek characters. Star Trek didn’t need fabulous monsters like Who, because it had fantastic characters and the interplay between Spock and McCoy was so fun you didn’t need much else. With Superman again I think his supporting cast were arguably more iconic. Batman has never had one love interest that’s not a villain for instance, where as Lois Lane is THE comic book love interest.

      Thanks for your reply.

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